you are right Ron, but even those companies/people can only spend
their time once. So please submit you improvements whenever you can.

regards,
Daan

On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Ron Wheeler
<rwhee...@artifact-software.com> wrote:
> On 12/08/2013 10:08 AM, Travis Graham wrote:
>>
>> One of the most confusing things I've ran into, past the fact the
>> documentation is wrong about 80% of the time, is the mix of CentOS and
>> Ubuntu instructions.
>>
>> I think splitting things out into their own OS specific install guides
>> would reduce a lot of confusion.
>
> Yes.
>
>>
>> I was browsing the 4.2 docs in the repo this weekend and I'm still not
>> seeing swath of the incorrect info being updated. Maybe things that haven't
>> been rolled into the 4.2 branch yet.
>
> I hope that this gets done. It is the biggest problem that CloudStack has in
> getting traction.
>
> You only get one chance to make a first impression and the impression at the
> moment is that the system does not work and is not ready for prime time
> except for organizations that have a development group ready to read the
> code and fix the docs for their installation.
>
> Ron
>
>
>> Travis
>>
>> On Aug 12, 2013, at 9:59 AM, Ron Wheeler <rwhee...@artifact-software.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The documentation is wrong which is a big problem.
>>>
>>> It is also confusing with extraneous stuff stuck in the middle and
>>> missing introductory information to explain where the instructions are
>>> leading.
>>>
>>> There seems to be a big effort to get 4.2 out with accurate docs and I
>>> hope more clarifying text and drawings.
>>>
>>> It appears that there is a lot of effort going into external Wiki
>>> documentation to make up for the state of the manuals.
>>>
>>> Ron
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/08/2013 4:10 AM, Mark van der Meulen wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I am having a little trouble understanding how the cloudstack networking
>>>> model works, I have read the documentation and enquired on IRC(without
>>>> response) and still don't really get it. I suspect if I was able to setup
>>>> CloudStack and play with it I would understand, however given that I have 
>>>> to
>>>> go through a complex networking setup to get the Zone/Pod/Cluster/Host even
>>>> setup to start with, I haven't been able to get far enough in to start
>>>> playing.
>>>>
>>>> Based on what I have read, I think I would like to setup a Public Cloud,
>>>> essentially some hypervisors on a private network(lets say 10.1.254.0/24)
>>>> and storage on another network(let's say 10.1.253.0/24) and then all the
>>>> VM's given public IP's(let's say 200.10.10.0/24). I don't understand how to
>>>> do that, or even what the difference is between a Guest network and Public
>>>> network(do they have to be separate?)
>>>>
>>>> I'm used to just building VM's in vSphere and the reason I would like to
>>>> move to CloudStack is for the automation and ability to give not so
>>>> technical people access to creating VM's. On vSphere this would be easy,
>>>> iSCSI and Management on the same 10G NIC with different VLAN tags, and then
>>>> guest network on another NIC. Replicating this into Cloudstack with KVM
>>>> doesn't seem possible? Can I use VLAN tagging?
>>>>
>>>> Other questions I have are around the multitude of DNS servers(internal,
>>>> external, etc) that the CloudStack Management server asks me for when I set
>>>> up the Pod/Cluster/Host as well as internal and external networks - then 
>>>> how
>>>> do I assign and make sure all configuration is okay across hypervisors?
>>>>
>>>> If someone could point me towards a good guide I would really appreciate
>>>> it.
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Ron Wheeler
>>> President
>>> Artifact Software Inc
>>> email: rwhee...@artifact-software.com
>>> skype: ronaldmwheeler
>>> phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Ron Wheeler
> President
> Artifact Software Inc
> email: rwhee...@artifact-software.com
> skype: ronaldmwheeler
> phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102
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