Pure Xen deployment is not yet supported (Am I wrong?). When I said Xen in my mail I meant (Xenserver or Xen + XCP).
BTW: I use Xen hypervisor with XCP packages or a debian distro in my physical hosts. On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 1:44 PM, "Matthias Müller" <matthiasmuelle...@web.de> wrote: > Thanks for all replies. > > As Geoff said I am new to the complete topic CloudStack. I worked only > with XenServer in the past and now evaluate CloudStack which I think seems > to be the better option for XenServer as OpenStack. > > Of course it should be more easier to create a VM for the management > server as I also have different XenServer and therfore the question. When I > read the answers I think the only useful way is to install CloudStack on a > dedicated server or VM of a host which is not also a node for CloudStack. > > For the evaluation I will now install a CentOS host with KVM on a single > dedicated server. > > One small question: > I read that also Xen is an option. I can not find any information > regarding Xen in the documentation, is it official supported by CloudStack? > > > Thanks > > Gesendet: Sonntag, 02. November 2014 um 14:32 Uhr > Von: "Rafael Weingartner" <rafaelweingart...@gmail.com> > An: "users@cloudstack.apache.org" <users@cloudstack.apache.org> > Betreff: Re: CloudStack with XenServer on single host > You are right, > > I am just using this deployment, because I have an environment with more > than 1 server. We actually have 3 clusters, and we spread the system vms > (router and etc) and CS vms (database, CS1, CS2 and apache) into different > clusters. > > So, if I for some odd reason I need to restart a physical server, I can > still migrate VMs before the restart. > > I just presented our work around to show that it is indeed possible. But, > as a said, it can be tricky, especially if you have an environment with > just one server. > > BTW: out of curiosity, if you use CS in an environment with just one > physical server, would you call it a Cloud? > > On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 11:14 AM, Geoff Higginbottom < > geoff.higginbot...@shapeblue.com> wrote: > > > Hi Rafael. > > > > That's certainly a clever way of getting it to work, however if you were > > to put the Host into maintenance mode, or reboot it, all the VMS would > stop > > and you would have no way of restarting them. > > > > The original poster is new to CloudStack and needs to learn how it works. > > I don't think we should encourage the use of complex 'hacked' deployments > > which could give them problems in the event the Host is restarted etc. > > > > Regards > > > > Geoff Higginbottom > > CTO / Cloud Architect > > > > D: +44 20 3603 0542<tel:+442036030542> | S: +44 20 3603 0540<tel: > > +442036030540> | M: +447968161581<tel:+447968161581> > > > > geoff.higginbot...@shapeblue.com<mailto:geoff.higginbot...@shapeblue.com > > > > | www.shapeblue.com[http://www.shapeblue.com]<htp://www.shapeblue.com/> > | Twitter:@cloudstackguru< > > > https://twitter.com/#!/cloudstackguru[https://twitter.com/#!/cloudstackguru] > > > > > > ShapeBlue Ltd, 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London, WC2N > > 4HS<x-apple-data-detectors://5> > > > > > > On 2 Nov 2014, at 12:28, Rafael Weingartner <rafaelweingart...@gmail.com > > <mailto:rafaelweingart...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > Actually, you can have CS running on a Xen server host that it is > running; > > however it is a little bit tricky, because when you add a xen server, the > > CS does not load any VM configuration that it already has running. > > > > I did that myself in the Cloud that we have in our networking and > > management lab. > > > > I first installed CS in a temp machine and added the hosts I wanted to > > manage to CS. > > > > Then, I created 4 instances (you most certainly do not need that much) > one > > for the CS-database, CS1 and CS2 and an Apache Webserver working as a > load > > balancer. > > > > After that, I stopped the CS that was in the temp machine, migrated the > > database for the cs-database VM, configured CS1 and CS2 to use that > > database that is in the VM. Configured the Apache web server, and that is > > it. You now have a CS environment that runs on physical machines and VMs > > that it manages. > > > > On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 10:06 AM, Geoff Higginbottom < > > geoff.higginbot...@shapeblue.com<mailto:geoff.higginbot...@shapeblue.com > >> > > wrote: > > > > Unfortunately you cannot run CloudStack Management Server on a XenServer > > (or ESXi) Host it is managing. > > > > It works for KVM because CloudStack and KVM are running as services on > > CentOS, CloudStack is not running as a VM on KVM. > > > > You do have a couple of options however: > > > > Install Virtualbox and then create a VM for CloudStack and a separate VM > > for XenServer - take a look at this recent presentation I have at the > > European User Group > > > > > > > > > http://www.slideshare.net/ShapeBlue/building-virtualised-cloudstack-test-environments[http://www.slideshare.net/ShapeBlue/building-virtualised-cloudstack-test-environments] > > > > This is really aimed at testing on a Laptop, if you have a physical box a > > better option is to install the free version of ESXi then add a CentOS VM > > for CloudStack and a XenServer VM as your Hypervisor. If you configure > > ESXi for nested virtualisation your XenServer will support HVM VMs, > unlike > > on Virtualbox which will only support PV VMs > > > > Regards > > > > Geoff Higginbottom > > CTO / Cloud Architect > > > > D: +44 20 3603 0542<tel:+442036030542> | S: +44 20 3603 0540<tel: > > +442036030540> | M: +447968161581<tel:+447968161581> > > > > geoff.higginbot...@shapeblue.com<mailto:geoff.higginbot...@shapeblue.com > > ><mailto:geoff.higginbot...@shapeblue.com> > > | www.shapeblue.com[http://www.shapeblue.com]<http://www.shapeblue.com[ > http://www.shapeblue.com]><htp://www.shapeblue.com/> | > > Twitter:@cloudstackguru< > > > https://twitter.com/#!/cloudstackguru[https://twitter.com/#!/cloudstackguru] > > > > > > ShapeBlue Ltd, 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London, WC2N > > 4HS<x-apple-data-detectors://5> > > > > > > On 2 Nov 2014, at 04:14, "matthiasmuelle...@web.de<mailto: > > matthiasmuelle...@web.de><mailto: > > matthiasmuelle...@web.de<mailto:matthiasmuelle...@web.de>>" < > > matthiasmuelle...@web.de<mailto:matthiasmuelle...@web.de><mailto: > > matthiasmuelle...@web.de<mailto:matthiasmuelle...@web.de>>> wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > is there any way to install the CloudStack management server as VM on > > XenServer 6.2.0 which will also added as host for instances? > > > > It is possible to install it on CentOS host with KVM but I do not find > any > > information regarding XenServer VM. In the documentation it is stated, > that > > there should be no running VM on XenServer but I am not sure, if there is > > no possibility. 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