>From my perspective there are two issues being raised in this thread. 1. The original poster didn't actually ask a question, and despite requests for more information, nothing which would allow us to help was forthcoming. We can't fix that which we don't know to be broken, and as we're all learning and building our respective experience can't hope to mirror that of anyone else.
2. CloudStack is like every piece of software I've ever worked with; it has a learning curve. Cloud in general forces you to rethink your paradigms, and for me building my first CloudStack cloud took six weeks of unlearning what I thought "best practice". Not everything I had to "unlearn" was CloudStack; some was just bad thinking called "best practice". There's lots of information out there, but a learning curve definitely exists, and even today years after that first experience I continue to learn new things about CloudStack. To Mohammad, I offer this suggestion. You've engaged with this community, but specifics are lacking. It isn't reasonable for the community to offer assistance without knowing what is troubling you. Expectations are an important part of that, and we don't know what yours were, only that you're unhappy. Sandeep has raised specific issues, and I hope they were captured in Jira ( https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK). If they weren't then there is a very real possibility they won't be addressed until someone either reports it, or decides to directly fix it. I know I'm guilty of not putting Jira reports in, and I suspect I'm not alone. We all have the power to complain, but we also have the power to help fix an issue by taking a few extra minutes to just report the issue, and reporting on a mailing list doesn't count. Sorry for getting on my soap box, but I figured this thread had a good chance of showing up in some index in the future and that I had an opportunity to give a bit of guidance. Hopefully I've not overstepped. -tim On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 9:27 AM, sandeep khandekar < cloudstack.sand...@gmail.com> wrote: > I agree with him, it wastes time, but at the same time you are gaining > knowledge. > > If the documentation was done, he would not have faced this many problems. > > Single node setup: > You never told why on restart/shutdown, you loose your secondary > storage(NFS). - May be we need to disable swap. Still I dont know the > answer. > > Multi-node setup > Why I cant view my instance. Everything was installed properly, I connected > to management server, logged in, Ubuntu instance was successfully setup, > but I was unable to view it. It showed an error, I forgot the error. why? > > Devloper cloudstack > Problems with devcloud in devlopment environment. > devcloud2 never works - then why you mention in your books, links and docs, > why dont you refer to devcloud4 in which many changes are done daily. > Sometimes user gets broken devcloud4, and they get freaked out. > > Its not as simple as Vagrant up and vagrant halt. > > Sorry I learnt a lot, but we should agree with him, as a starter it took 9 > months still the job is unfinished. Stopped it, because I freaked out, and > I am taking rest, will be back soon. > > Dont think it is waste of time speaking, many people are not speaking > because, they are thinking, in future they may not get the answers for > their queries. > > Cloudstack we love it, but we dont know how to work with it, we are > learining, and we will be masters soon. > > Many people help us here on this group. That is the biggest achievement of > these group, but you dont reveal the real recipe because you may loose > bussiness. > > This are my views and I dont mean to hurt anyone in anyway. > > On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 5:38 PM, Francois Gaudreault < > fgaudrea...@cloudops.com> wrote: > > > One thing I agree for sure, the thread title is right, that discussion is > > starting to be a waste of time :) (although very entertaining) > > > > FG > > > > > > On 2014-11-17 4:36 AM, sebgoa wrote: > > > >> On Nov 15, 2014, at 8:00 PM, Mohammad Mahdi Raja <mr...@shirazu.ac.ir> > >> wrote: > >> > >> Thanks for your answers, > >>> > >>> I installed different version on different infrastructure during the > >>> time. It is somehow much more unstable that other competitors. Many > >>> non-documented issues and many unpredictable problems. I know that we > are > >>> all here to help each others to feel good about it, but I think we are > >>> wasting our times on solving issues instead of doing business ! > >>> > >>> Any one disagrees ? > >>> > >>> Yes, I do, I 100% disagree. > >> > >> Just buy my book and you will be enlightened: > >> > >> http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920034377.do > >> > >> Ps: slighlty sarcastic answer :) enjoy > >> > >> > >> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 12:33 PM, Osay Osman Yuuni <oyu...@gmail.com> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Hi Mohammed, > >>>> I'd be interested to know why you think Cloudstack is waiting our > >>>> time? Do > >>>> you have any specific issues that need addressing that you could not? > >>>> By > >>>> Cloudstack who do you actually mean? The contributors, users, > >>>> governance? > >>>> Unless you're able to tell us what makes you think Cloudstack is > wasting > >>>> our times I'm afraid I don't see how we can agree with you. > >>>> > >>>> Osay > >>>> > >>>> On 10 November 2014 10:54, Vihar <vih1...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Was your questions not answered? Or you have issues with setting up > >>>>> cloudstack? > >>>>> > >>>>> Regards > >>>>> Vihar K > >>>>> On Nov 10, 2014 2:19 PM, "Erik Weber" <terbol...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 9:25 AM, Mohammad Mahdi Raja < > >>>>>> > >>>>> mr...@shirazu.ac.ir> > >>>>> > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> ​Dear All, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Does every one have the sense that CloudStack is wasting our times > ? > >>>>>>> Unfortunately I think so. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> It's probably easier to answer your feelings if you describe a bit > >>>>>> more > >>>>>> > >>>>> why > >>>>> > >>>>>> you're feeling that way. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Why is CloudStack wasting your time? How can it be improved to not > >>>>>> waste > >>>>>> your time? etc. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> Erik > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > > > > -- > > Francois Gaudreault > > Gestionnaire de Produit | Product Manager - Cloud Platform & Services > > t:514-629-6775 > > > > CloudOps Votre partenaire infonuagique | Cloud Solutions Experts > > 420 rue Guy | Montreal | Quebec | H3J 1S6 > > w: cloudops.com | tw: @CloudOps_ > > > > > > > -- > SANDEEP KHANDEKAR > Assistant Professor > Department of Computer science and engineering > Sreenidhi Institute of science and Technology > Hyderabad >
