Mathias Wiegard wrote:
Hi Antonio,
Hmm. I don't know if my opinion counts very much

Every opinion counts, and especially those of so called newbies (I hate this word), because they don't have this inside view and can tell us more objectively what's good, what's bad with Cocoon.


but it bothers me, that of
the view of an xsp-programmer the procedures of naming the ns and the tags
for accessing the session respectively the request are different... :(

In general the Cocoon namespaces are very consistent. If one element belongs to another namespace, this normally means that it belongs to another package or block.


By the way: thanks for the wiki-page. I wish there would be more
documentation for the input modules and contexts (see e.g. my question about
configuring Modules in the sitemap). Modules are very mighty and for my
opinion they are helping to better understand the flow of parameters in a
sitemap...

What about the official Cocoon documentation?


http://cocoon.apache.org/2.1/userdocs/concepts/modules.html
http://cocoon.apache.org/2.1/userdocs/concepts/modules-ref.html

That's why I'm switching to explicitely make out the parameters for
components in a pipeline instead of using something like the
"use-request-parameters" option.

This is positive IMO.


So (now that I have the chance to chat with
you ;) ) why is it so complicated to have default values? Wouldn' it be good
to have an default-Attribut for every Input-Module, like:

<map:parameter name="message"
value="{session-context:temporary/data/message}"
default="{default:loginmessage}"/>

the value of the default attribute could point to the defaultModule (here
instantiated as "default") /values/loginmessage that is either a string or a
xml-structure.
It would also help to be able to configure these defaultModule values in the
sitemap in the "<map:component-configuration/>"-section like the global
variables (And they would overwrite equal values configured in the
cocoon.xconf or parent sitemaps). For my opinion it would help to improve
the understanding of a sitemap dramatically.

I can't tell you much on this, so I leave it for other people to answer here.


Joerg

Von: "Antonio Gallardo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Mathias Wiegard dijo:

Maybe a stupid question, but why this "-fw"? Will this also be used e.g.
at "<xsp-request-fw"? Why these differences in naming?

The name was coined and currently a TM of Vadim Gritsenko. :-D


"fw" means framework, because (as Vadim explained), the tag is related to
the session-fw not to the environment.session. For more info see the track
of the tag here:

http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=13070

Best Regards,

Antonio Gallardo

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