I want to start a new thread, because I had some "compilation problems" during still unsuccessful experiments with cli. but those are (at least partly) no cli matters:

(1) To the first point: I believe it to be an extremly bad idea not to provide an binary distribution, by many reasons, the following might be the most important:

-- a Cocoon newbie has enough to deal with; that he/she also has to compile the project is really daunting, believe me! I often hold XML courses and also try to introduce Cocoon ...

-- Compilation takes a lot of time; I detected between 5 and 30 minutes, depending on configuration and machine. Again: do we want to adress only experts? currently we do tax the patience of news users a lot before they can even start dealing with the main Cocoon issues...

-- If you want to create versions e.g. for production use, you have to invest a lot of time to understand which blocks might be excluded; recompilation needs a lot of time and so on... an enerving task!!

so:

(2) I believe, at least 2 or 3 binary distributions have to be available for download.

However, if by some reasons, I might not understand (yet), no binary distribution is provided, then *at least* some example build.properties should be part of the download like

-- the one currently delivered
-- properties, that make CLI working
-- minimal setup
-- production setup (without examples and documentation)


well, this is at least my opinion.



thank you



alex




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