Sure - just need someone to pay my
way there - one of the joys of living
in a 3rd world economy is that you
really cannot afford these trips unless
sponsored...

Seriously, the point I was trying to make
was not that we necessarily need more
Cocoon presentations (unless we want to
compete with PHP, of course ;-)
but that perhaps the focus of the existing
ones could be a bit more, um, attractive?

just my 2c
(and really more to open some debate)

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003/11/14 03:52:00 PM >>>
Derek Hohls wrote:

>RE: http://apachecon.com/2003/US/html/sessions.html 
>
>Is it just me, or do others think that Cocoon is "under achieving" - 
>there are numerous sessions on building web applications:
>- with Struts
>- with J2EE
>- with CGI (!?)
>- with Turbine
>- with Tomcat (OK, for desktops apps)
>
>But all the Cocoon sessions seem to be "introductory"
>(MO01,MO13,MO17) or very specialised (TU12,TU19A).
>
>I am not saying Cocoon should be "competing" with
>those other frameworks, but the impression given to
>an outsider is that Cocoon is some small, new, "niche"
>type technology... and the "real" applications are or
>should be built with PHP or Struts.
>
>I know this is not something we can do much about;
>  
>

You can do a session on Cocoon on the next ApacheCon.

Vadim



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