Peter

You answered the "can Cocoon do it?" question well...
but omitted to answer the "can he create a simple web application 
as described above with Cocoon in a *short* time?"

The answer is "no" unless you already happen to know
all the technologies you listed (and you omitted XDoclet)

I have asked a number of times of this list for some
simple samples to get going with Hibernate, but so far
no one has taken a swing at it [I exclude PetStore because
it adds in Spring as well, and is not simple to download
and add in to an *existing* Cocoon installation without
rebuilding].

My 0.5c
Derek

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2004/06/25 12:00:27 PM >>>
Hello Sylvain,

Friday, June 25, 2004, 12:06:28 PM, you wrote:

> Hi all,

> I stopped to work with Cocoon 6 months ago when I was involved in
> a project using EJB and Websphere.

> But today I have the opportunity to recommend using Cocoon for a new
> development in my company.
> The goal of this small (but important) project is to create a small
> web application using a database and a few web pages to search for
> the data in the database, visualize them and update them.
> This project is rather simple but the important point for my boss is
> the COST. The project should cost a little and it means that it
> shouldn't take lots of weeks to develop it.

> I think that the fastest way could be a RAD tool like ASP.NET or
> something like that.
> But personally I would prefer doing the job with Cocoon.

> So my question is:
> Is it possible to create a simple web application as described above
> with Cocoon in a short time?
Definitely yes. From Cocoon website "Apache Cocoon is a web
development framework" and its mission is to solve tasks similar yours
(and more powerful). Cocoon has a lot of instruments that help
developing with Cocoon (CocoonFlow, CocoonForms, pipelines etc) by
deviding full task at some layers and implementing these layers
separately.
> And if yes, which way is the best?
Cocoon contains a lot of capabilities but I take a risk to recommend
to use the following:
- CocoonFlow for organizing page flow of separate parts of
  functionality
- CForms for form processing
- JavaBeans for organizing business layer
- some ORM tool for organizing persistence layer (eg I use Hibernate)

> I thought to use the new CocoonForm. Is it realistic to solve my
> problem with this tool? Is it stable today?
CForms is stable and powerfull.

> Thanks
> Regards
> Sylvain

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