Hello Derek, Friday, June 25, 2004, 1:06:14 PM, you wrote:
> Peter > You answered the "can Cocoon do it?" question well... > but omitted to answer the "can he create a simple web application > as described above with Cocoon in a *short* time?" > The answer is "no" unless you already happen to know > all the technologies you listed (and you omitted XDoclet) And "yes" if you understand all the technologies. Yes, you have answered more correctly on the question. I didn't work with .NET but I suspect that someone cannot create a data driven web application in short time without knowledge of .NET. At least I don't agree to create the Web-application in .NET now in short time. I think PHP is more suitable than Java for simple projects but my opiniion changes to the contrary for developing large prjects. Long term goals dictate choice of technology used. > I have asked a number of times of this list for some > simple samples to get going with Hibernate, but so far > no one has taken a swing at it [I exclude PetStore because > it adds in Spring as well, and is not simple to download > and add in to an *existing* Cocoon installation without > rebuilding]. Excuse me but I have not enough time to read all messages on list. What sample of Cocoon with Hibernate is needed? > My 0.5c > Derek >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2004/06/25 12:00:27 PM >>> > Hello Sylvain, > Friday, June 25, 2004, 12:06:28 PM, you wrote: >> Hi all, >> I stopped to work with Cocoon 6 months ago when I was involved in >> a project using EJB and Websphere. >> But today I have the opportunity to recommend using Cocoon for a new >> development in my company. >> The goal of this small (but important) project is to create a small >> web application using a database and a few web pages to search for >> the data in the database, visualize them and update them. >> This project is rather simple but the important point for my boss is >> the COST. The project should cost a little and it means that it >> shouldn't take lots of weeks to develop it. >> I think that the fastest way could be a RAD tool like ASP.NET or >> something like that. >> But personally I would prefer doing the job with Cocoon. >> So my question is: >> Is it possible to create a simple web application as described above >> with Cocoon in a short time? > Definitely yes. From Cocoon website "Apache Cocoon is a web > development framework" and its mission is to solve tasks similar yours > (and more powerful). Cocoon has a lot of instruments that help > developing with Cocoon (CocoonFlow, CocoonForms, pipelines etc) by > deviding full task at some layers and implementing these layers > separately. >> And if yes, which way is the best? > Cocoon contains a lot of capabilities but I take a risk to recommend > to use the following: > - CocoonFlow for organizing page flow of separate parts of > functionality > - CForms for form processing > - JavaBeans for organizing business layer > - some ORM tool for organizing persistence layer (eg I use Hibernate) >> I thought to use the new CocoonForm. Is it realistic to solve my >> problem with this tool? Is it stable today? > CForms is stable and powerfull. >> Thanks >> Regards >> Sylvain >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- > Best regards, > Peter Velychko > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Best regards, Peter Velychko [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
