Thanks for the reply Grzegorz,

Have you seen BricksCMS? [1] It is basically showcase for CRUD operations done quite easily in Cocoon.

I'm checking that out right now.

XSP is being replaced by Template block.

I suppose that's a 2.2 block? I see no docs mentioning it.

It is refactored and extended version of JX templates (syntax is pretty the same) which was back-ported into 2.1.x branch in 2.1.9 AFAIR. Speaking more precisely, Template cannot do everything XSP did. For example there is no ESQLequivalent in Template. Thus this responsibility has been carried to Flowscript/Javaflow. So flowscript have to prepare model for a view.

That's fine with me, it's a better separation of V and MC, I just always hated having to really struggle to get XSL to give me the output I wanted when I could do it much easier in Java. Things like tables, ordering, color-coding, grouping, etc. Jeni Tennison's XSL pages helped a lot, but that experience made me appreciate have a full programming model at my disposal, not a chosen subset implemented by the template language. And XSL's very powerful compared to most template languages out there. I guess I'll see with JXTemplate...

As there is the desire of devs to release first milestone of the most fundamental parts[2] of Cocoon 2.2 it seems reasonable to consider 2.2 not 2.1x branch.

Also... I've been looking into Spring and Tuscany to help with data access and exposing web services. Should I try to get started with Cocoon 2.2?
Spring... Spring + Hibernate alternative way of handling data to that showed in BricksCMS. It demands more time for learning but it's more powerful. Also you should know that Spring became default component container in 2.2 so integration is pretty good and tight. So yes, Spring is the way to go for the future.

I've been following the dev mailing list for a little while, trying to get a handle on where Cocoon is heading. I had to get started though, and seeing how some of the devs had a hard time getting 2.2 up and running I thought I'd go with 2.1.9. If 2.2M1 really is coming out soon, and is somewhat usable, I'd rather go with that. Spring is a big plus and I think the only functionality I need is flow, templates, and maybe forms.

Ok, well thanks for the advice.

-Justin

PS. Arrgh. I sent this first from the wrong email and I hoped the moderator would catch it. Sorry for the double email.


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