Sweet, I didn't really know about Daisy. That helps a lot. I'm installing Maven and 2.2, and we'll see how that goes.

Thanks,
  Justin


On Jul 7, 2006, at 3:09 PM, Grzegorz Kossakowski wrote:

Justin Fagnani-Bell napisaƂ(a):
I suppose that's a 2.2 block? I see no docs mentioning it.
Yes, it's 2.2 block, docs can be found here: http:// cocoon.zones.apache.org/daisy/documentation/864/751.html It is now the place where docs are baked up. Feel free to improve them as there is much room to shine ;)
That's fine with me, it's a better separation of V and MC, I just always hated having to really struggle to get XSL to give me the output I wanted when I could do it much easier in Java. Things like tables, ordering, color-coding, grouping, etc. Jeni Tennison's XSL pages helped a lot, but that experience made me appreciate have a full programming model at my disposal, not a chosen subset implemented by the template language. And XSL's very powerful compared to most template languages out there. I guess I'll see with JXTemplate...
I see your point and agree with that.
JX enable you to pull your data from model into XML in very convenient yet powerful way. There are loops for iteration, ifs and chooses. But JX doesn't try to pull data from e.g. database, it demands flowscript/javaflow to prepare POJOs (or even simple one array) which became source of the data to be pulled. I think it is good design and as you said better separation.
I've been following the dev mailing list for a little while, trying to get a handle on where Cocoon is heading. I had to get started though, and seeing how some of the devs had a hard time getting 2.2 up and running I thought I'd go with 2.1.9.
It may sound quite weird but for me it seems that C2.2 is much easier to run for newcomer than for developer. See my [1] and Patrick's [2] mails. Developers have hard time getting 2.2 because maven has some issues with getting updates into account. The best is to try for your own! More people testing, fixing some urgent issues means greater chance for M1 released soon. I found myself running most of the CForms samples running fine. This is a proof that 2.2 is not in chaos as CForms is quite complicated beasts and exploits many parts of Cocoon.

PS. Yes, I'm making some buzz about 2.2 but only because I think it's worth it.

[1] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.text.xml.cocoon.devel/65196/ focus=65225 [2] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.text.xml.cocoon.user/57038/ focus=57052

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