On documentation:

- There is literally one line in the RESTFul Services / Jax-rs section  which 
references the existence of a 2.2 version and the
extent jax-rs  compatibility / support.

There's no 2.2 version yet - it's still SNAPSHOT and it's been updated to 
support 1.0 only a couple of weeks ago.


- Nowhere does it list specific dependencies for jax-rs.

- Even in the How-to build your cxf project with maven section, where  it 
supposedly shows all dependencies possible, there is no
listing of  the jax-rs dependency in there.

- The maven repository you mentioned below is not listed in the  pom.xml in the 
How-to / build / maven mentioned previously.

sure, I'll fix it


- The beans.xml file in the Configuring jax-rs services for Spring  section has 
a bug in it. There are conficting ID's used by the
jaxrs:server and customerService bean.

thanks for pointing it out


- Nowhere is there mentioned any progress on dependency SNAPSHOTS or  current 
repositories for locating these.

- In the past, there have been jax-rs configuration / usage changes in  newer 
versions -- these were not documented.

Do you suggest us keeping the history of all changes which have been done to the configuration ? So that you can look at the page and locate the description of your currently outdated configuration syntax ? At one point of time we had <jaxrs:entityProviders> (introduced thanks to your patch as far as I remember). Then I was absolutely certain that when starting to work on supporting different types of JAXRS providers I mentioned in the docs that soon <jaxrs:entityProviders> would be replaced by <jaxrs:providers> - perhaps there's a history of changes there.


- I'm not completely sure about the standards here, so if I'm  mistaken, please 
correct me. I was of the understanding that the
jax- rs 1.0 standard specifies the @Produces and @Consumes annotations. CXF  
does not support these, even in the 2.2 version --
using them results  in compile errors. It instead supports @ProducesMime and 
@ConsumesMime.

I'm wondering how CXF tests using @Produces and @Consumes compile ? Check your classpath please, I bet you still have an older jaxrs api hanging around...


- Not that this cannot be deducted, but in all web services / REST  
documentation in general, both with CXF and other frameworks
I've  used, it would be a great help to pair with configuration / annotation  
documentation a concise explanation of what the
final URL your  services resides at, depending upon your configuration, i.e.:

<webapp-context-root (web.xml)> / <jaxrs:server address (beans.xml  address attr)> / 
<service class path (class file @Path)> /
<service  method path (method @Path in class file)

ok - makes sense.


Different configurations vary, of course, but documenting the  convention would 
be helpful. It would also be helpful to have some
discussion of the use of the address in the jaxrs:server configuration  vs. the 
service class @Path, and why these would be used
as something  other than "/" or not. I know that starts entering the domain of REST  a 
bit, but when examples merely show "/", the
user is left wondering  why it exists at all, or under what circumstances would it be 
changed,  if "/" is the recommended value.

ok


- A list of changes from one version to another would be helpful.  Perhaps this 
exists somewhere and I don't know where.

agreed


Hope that helps.

it does, Honestly - I regret people like yourself who submitted a bunch of good patches are not CXF committers yet, as Dan mentioned in his recent email, otherwise we'd have more hands and much better docs :-).

Thanks for your suggestions abyway - I think I see how the documentation needs 
to be improved - will try to do it asap

Cheers, Sergey


Brad

On Nov 10, 2008, at 5:09 AM, Willem Jiang wrote:

Hi Sergey,

Can you add this document into the CXF wiki page ? Maybe you can also
add a section of CXF 2.1.x release note :)

Cheers,

Willem
Sergey Beryozkin wrote:
Hi


All,

If anyone knows the required dependencies (and versions), and any
required repositories to build CXF 2.2 with Jax-RS (RESTful  services)
using Maven, I'd greatly appreciate it.

As far as CXF is concerned, in 2.2-SNAPSHOT, compared to versions
starting from 2.1.2, the following dependencies have changed :

1. javax.ws.rs/jsr311-api/0.8 -> javax.ws.rs/jsr311-api/1.0

it's available from

<repository>
          <id>java.net.2</id>
          <name>Java Net 2 Repository</name>
          <url>http://download.java.net/maven/2</url>
</repository>

AFAIK, JAXRS team have changed the maven repo starting from 0.8, so  if
you're migrating from CXF with versions earlier than 2.1.2 you  might see
artifact download problems.

2. org.apache.cxf/cxf-rt-databinding-aegis/2.2-SNAPSHOT added -  compile


Some other changes across CXF
(http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/cxf/trunk/parent/pom.xml)

- Spring dependencies have changed from 2.0.8 in 2.1.x to 2.5.6
- javax.xml.bind/jaxb-api/2.1
- com.sun.xml.bind/jaxb-impl/2.1.7

I'm not aware of any other significant changes which might affect  JAXRS
implementation.
Does it help ? Any specific problems you're still seeing ?


A kind suggestion: I've been using CXF and Jax-RS stuff for around a
year now

thanks :-) !

. and every time there's been a mild breeze blow which has in
any way affected CXF configuration or building in Maven, simple
upgrading to the latest version has resulted in a several day plunge
down the rabbit hole to figure out how to build / configure again.  It
would be a great improvement to the release process if at the very
least the build / configuration documentation was updated with the
latest release. Restated, don't release the code without the build /
configuration doc updated.

Your suggestions are welcome and we'll try do do it right for 2.2  once
it's released. I think Dan is doing a lot of work in this regard but
capturing version and repository changes would be good indeed.
In meantime please send a message to a user list whenever you have  any
issues and we'll try our best to help.

When confronted with this yet again today,
despite the fact I have no need or desire to move away from CXF, I
spent several hours researching alternatives so that I could avoid
having to go through this again.

I'd really hate to see users like yourself who've helped us to push  CXF
JAX-RS implementation to its current level go (still not rock-solid  but
in a much better shape than it used to be), same way as I hate seeing
users who've just quickly tried it and decided to look elsewhere.  From
our perspective we know though that users are totally free to  choose so
we have really one option - just keep working and make it work well  and
I know we'll get there. It's important for users to understand that
we're committed to seeing CXF as a platform capable of  accommodating and
mixing different styles of services. Likewise we'll think hard on  how to
make CXF JAXRS 'shine' on its own. There's only one problem - lack of
resources - for ex I'm not able to allocate 100% of my time to JAXRS
work so that's why users have to struggle with figuring out  themselves
how to update dependencies/etc.

But as I said, your comments are helpful and we'll take them on  board.

Thanks, Sergey


Thanks -- any help you can give with the question above would be
greatly appreciated.

Cheers,

Brad

Brad O'Hearne
Owner / Developer
Big Hill Software
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