Hi Andrei,

This does mean the policy imported in option c could be using:
- option a: wsdl already contains <wsp:PolicyReference URI="#policyId"/> so the policy applied at runtime will define actual <wsp:Policy wsu:Id="policyId"> or
- option b:  policyattachemnt element

and CXF should still work right?


Thanks
Sam


On 25/11/2013 6:20 a.m., Andrei Shakirin wrote:
Hi Sam,

-----Original Message-----
From: Sam [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Sonntag, 24. November 2013 00:39
To: Andrei Shakirin
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Best practice of using external WS-Policy files with CXF?

Hi Andrei,

I think I will go for option C but the question is if a policy is targeted at
wsdl:input, wsdl:output or sp:header, say signing then encrypt those parts,
then how does policy reference parts of WSDL without using a) and b).
If you apply ws-policy using PolicyConstants.POLICY_OVERRIDE (option (c)), this 
effective policy is used to trigger interceptors for current message and all 
other ws-policies from service model are ignored (see PolicyInInterceptor and 
PolicyOutInterceptor for details).
Therefore, is up to you how to compose and merge effective policy - CXF doesn't 
care about any WSDL relations in this case, it will just use your effective 
policy.

Is there any sample code usage/examples of option C in CXF source code
beside BindingPropertiesTest?
I will distil the option C in small sample and link it from my blog as soon as 
I find a bit a time to do that.

Regards,
Andrei.

Thanks
Sam


On 21/11/2013 4:16 a.m., Andrei Shakirin wrote:
Hi,

The policy what you found in
rt/ws/security/src/test/resources/org/apache/cxf/ws/security/wss4j don't
reference WSDL, but refer parts of SOAP message to be signed or encrypted.
That is not related to binding WS-Policy to WSDL.

To bind the policies you have following options:
a) Embed WS-Policy into WSDL
b) use WS-PolicyAttachment
c) apply policy dynamically at runtime

As Dennis said, you could refer to this CXF documents
http://cxf.apache.org/docs/ws-policy.html,
http://cxf.apache.org/docs/how-to-define-policies.html
and my blog:
http://ashakirin.blogspot.de/2012/02/using-ws-policy-in-cxf-projects.h
tml

Regards,
Andrei.


-----Original Message-----
From: Sam [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Dienstag, 19. November 2013 12:01
To: [email protected]
Subject: Best practice of using external WS-Policy files with CXF?

Hi all,

I found many sample policy files within /apache-cxf-2.7.6-
src/rt/ws/security/src/test/resources/org/apache/cxf/ws/security/wss4
j that don't use wsu:Id attribute at all in <wsp:Policy>, i.e.
<wsp:Policy wsu:Id="test_policy">.
This implies the WSDL doesn't even need to use <wsp:PolicyReference>
to use them. Instead these policy files use something like the
following to refer to parts of WSDL.

         <sp:SignedParts>
           <sp:Body/>
           <sp:Header Name="Header" Namespace="http://www.sdj.pl"/>
         </sp:SignedParts>
         <sp:SignedParts>
           <sp:Body/>
           <sp:Header Namespace="http://www.sdj.pl"/>
         </sp:SignedParts>

           or use xpath like

       <sp:EncryptedElements>
           <sp:XPath>//soap:Body</sp:XPath>
         </sp:EncryptedElements>

          <sp:SignedElements>
           <sp:XPath>//ser:Header</sp:XPath>
         </sp:SignedElements>

So just to confirm, is CXF capable of applying these reusable,
external WS- Policy files to WSDL at runtime without modifying WSDL
to use <wsp:PolicyReference>?
What is the best practice of applying external WS-Policy files with CXF?

I see no need to use <wsp:PolicyAttachment> at all if the above
approach work for CXF. <wsp:PolicyAttachment> seems much less
flexisble.
All the CXF examples and forum discussions I read seem to suggest
it's best to embed policy within WSDL but I can't see CONs of useing
external WS- Policy files like above.

What am I trying to do? I read the link
http://ashakirin.blogspot.co.nz/2013/04/cxf-security-getting-certific
ates-
from.html
and try to implement a WS client that can apply WS-Policy dynamically
at run time  without touching WSDL.

Thanks in advance,

Sam

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