No, if the certificate itself is in the truststore then it is deemed to be
trusted - the CA certificate does not need to be in there as well.

Colm.

On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 7:37 AM, Jose María Zaragoza <[email protected]>
wrote:

> 2015-02-26 23:38 GMT+01:00 Colm O hEigeartaigh <[email protected]>:
> > I did a quick test using CXF's WebClient doing a "GET" on
> > https://www.google.com. It works fine when you don't specify any
> > TLSClientParameters as expected, as it picks up the default cacerts.
> > However, when I added the following it fails (also as expected):
> >
> >  <http:conduit name="https://.*";>
> >       <http:tlsClientParameters disableCNCheck="true">
> >         <sec:trustManagers>
> >           <sec:keyStore type="jks" password="cspass"
> > resource="clientstore.jks"/>
> >         </sec:trustManagers>
> >       </http:tlsClientParameters>
> >    </http:conduit>
> >
> > Colm.
>
> OK. That's right.
> But , if you import Google certificate into clientstore.jks but you
> don't import its CA certificate ( GeoTrust CA , in this case ), should
> it fail ? This is my question
> I don't know what is the validation path that JSSE follows
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 10:07 PM, Jose María Zaragoza <
> [email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> 2015-02-26 22:23 GMT+01:00 Sergey Beryozkin <[email protected]>:
> >> > What I meant is that you do use a self signed cert to sign a
> previously
> >> > generated certificate but do not import this self signed cert into the
> >> > truststore which would emulate the same situation you have now without
> >> > having to provide a test where well known providers sign a given
> server
> >> > certificate.
> >>
> >> OK
> >> I'll try it
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Sergey
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 26/02/15 18:51, Jose María Zaragoza wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> 2015-02-26 18:09 GMT+01:00 Sergey Beryozkin <[email protected]>:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Hi
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I guess this is what Colm is implying, that the actual problem that
> it
> >> >>> does
> >> >>> work.
> >> >>> Can it be reproduced by a given server certificate with a
> self-signed
> >> >>> certificate validating it ?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Well, I don't have a testcase right now. I'll try to reproduce it .
> >> >>
> >> >> With a self signed certificate , the behaviour also is the same
> >> >> But that makes sense ( for me ) , because your CA is yourself, so you
> >> >> could trust on it ( if the certificate is imported into your keystore
> >> >> )
> >> >>
> >> >> Regards
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Cheers, Sergey
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On 26/02/15 16:55, Jose María Zaragoza wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> 2015-02-26 17:47 GMT+01:00 Colm O hEigeartaigh <
> [email protected]>:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> It does, but only if no truststore has been configured in CXF. Do
> you
> >> >>>>> have a
> >> >>>>> test-case that reproduces this problem?
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Thanks, not really
> >> >>>> Indeed, it's not a problem because my client works fine , but I
> cannot
> >> >>>> understand why. I only imported the server certificate, no the
> others
> >> >>>> in chain
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> As I don't know how the underlying certificate validation is
> performed
> >> >>>> , I don't know if this behaviour is caused by default settings in
> CXF
> >> >>>> or another reason.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Regards
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Colm.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 4:39 PM, Jose María Zaragoza
> >> >>>>> <[email protected]>
> >> >>>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> 2015-02-26 17:14 GMT+01:00 Colm O hEigeartaigh <
> [email protected]
> >> >:
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> You are using "keyManagers" instead of "trustManagers" in the
> >> >>>>>>> configuration. "keyManagers" is used when you need to specify a
> key
> >> >>>>>>> for
> >> >>>>>>> client authentication. "trustManagers" is used to verify trust
> in
> >> the
> >> >>>>>>> server's cert. As you have no "trustManagers" configuration
> here, I
> >> >>>>>>> guess
> >> >>>>>>> it is falling back on the default JVM settings
> >> >>>>>>> (javax.net.ssl.trustStore)
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Sorry, it was a typo. I'm using trustManagers
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> <sec:trustManagers>
> >> >>>>>>                 <sec:keyStore type="JKS" password="*******"
> >> >>>>>> resource="truststore.jks"/>
> >> >>>>>>             </sec:trustManagers>
> >> >>>>>> <sec:cipherSuitesFilter>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Do you know if JSSE ( I guess it's the underlying TLS
> >> implementation )
> >> >>>>>> uses default JVM truststore for checking certificates ?
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Thanks
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Colm.
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 11:32 AM, Jose María Zaragoza
> >> >>>>>>> <[email protected]>
> >> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> Hello:
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> Maybe this question a bit off topic , but I try to understand
> why
> >> my
> >> >>>>>>>> client works.
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> I use CXF 2.7.8 to call a remote webservice by HTTPS (SSL /TLS)
> >> >>>>>>>> This is my settings:
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> <http-conf:conduit name="https://.*";>
> >> >>>>>>>>     <http-conf:tlsClientParameters>
> >> >>>>>>>>     <sec:keyManagers keyPassword="xxxxxxxx">
> >> >>>>>>>>           <sec:keyStore type="JKS" password="xxxxxxxx"
> >> >>>>>>>> resource="truststore.jks"/>
> >> >>>>>>>>      </sec:keyManagers>
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> I've imported SSL server certificate into truststore.jks
> >> >>>>>>>> And it works fine.
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> But this certificate is signed by a CA chain ( from .
> godaddy.com)
> >> ,
> >> >>>>>>>> and ( I think ) I don't have imported any certificate from
> godaddy
> >> >>>>>>>> Why does my client trust in the server certificate ?
> >> >>>>>>>> Is not  performed some Certification Path Validation process ?
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> Thanks and regards
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> --
> >> >>>>>>> Colm O hEigeartaigh
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Talend Community Coder
> >> >>>>>>> http://coders.talend.com
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> --
> >> >>>>> Colm O hEigeartaigh
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Talend Community Coder
> >> >>>>> http://coders.talend.com
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> --
> >> >>> Sergey Beryozkin
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Talend Community Coders
> >> >>> http://coders.talend.com/
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Blog: http://sberyozkin.blogspot.com
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Colm O hEigeartaigh
> >
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>



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