Barbara Duprey wrote:
Drew Jensen wrote:
Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
Hi all,

quoting from a post in the ux mailing list:
Miroslav Mazel escribió:
I think that Draw and Base should be removed from the basic OpenOffice
package (but still be downloadable optionally) ...

should we laugh or cry?

Hi Ariel,

Do you think the premise of the question so absurd as to be laughable? The naivety of the poster might be laughable (though I wouldn't agree with that even), but not the question itself.

Quite the contrary, I would bet you would find a majority of users that would vote to keep draw (look at the responses at the UX list) I doubt the same would be the case for Base (look at the responses at the UX list). Which is not to say that most would want Base killed (although I would not bet on that), but many do not understand why it is part of the basic installation. Of course if you are running the fastest growing Linux desktop distribution, Base is not part of the default installation anyway, so there you go - one big vote cast already.

Does Base have a user group, you bet it does, would that group support a move to make it a separate package from the rest of OpenOffice.org? Maybe, it would depend on how the Base Run-Time packaging was handled I suppose.
I doubt that separating Base would have much in the way of negative consequences -- it sort of follows the pattern that MS chose in making Access a separate product or part of MS Office Pro rather than the basic package. Since, as I understand it, no other components depend on Base (unlike the interdependencies among the others for common code), and it would decrease the size of the primary download, this might be worth looking into. A couple of other possible advantages would be the ability to update Base on a different schedule with regard to the others, which could simplify testing for both packages, and the opportunity to package the major extensions as optional parts of the installation with more visibility into their capabilities. I wouldn't expect the Base user community to be upset by having a separate download for it.


I haven't yet used Base, tho I hope to one day replace Access97 with it. That's why I follow these discussions. I'd have no problem with the idea of offering Base the way Access is - both as a separate module and as an optional part of OpenOffice. I DO want it to be able to interact well with Calc (and with Excel) in terms of being able to read, import and export table-style data to/from those spreadsheets. (I'm not familiar enough to know how well it currently does those things.)

-- Tim Deaton


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