Tim Deaton wrote:
Barbara Duprey wrote:
Drew Jensen wrote:
Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
Hi all,
quoting from a post in the ux mailing list:
Miroslav Mazel escribió:
I think that Draw and Base should be removed from the basic
OpenOffice
package (but still be downloadable optionally) ...
should we laugh or cry?
Hi Ariel,
Do you think the premise of the question so absurd as to be
laughable? The naivety of the poster might be laughable (though I
wouldn't agree with that even), but not the question itself.
Quite the contrary, I would bet you would find a majority of users
that would vote to keep draw (look at the responses at the UX list)
I doubt the same would be the case for Base (look at the responses
at the UX list). Which is not to say that most would want Base
killed (although I would not bet on that), but many do not
understand why it is part of the basic installation. Of course if
you are running the fastest growing Linux desktop distribution,
Base is not part of the default installation anyway, so there you go
- one big vote cast already.
Does Base have a user group, you bet it does, would that group
support a move to make it a separate package from the rest of
OpenOffice.org? Maybe, it would depend on how the Base Run-Time
packaging was handled I suppose.
I doubt that separating Base would have much in the way of negative
consequences -- it sort of follows the pattern that MS chose in
making Access a separate product or part of MS Office Pro rather than
the basic package. Since, as I understand it, no other components
depend on Base (unlike the interdependencies among the others for
common code), and it would decrease the size of the primary download,
this might be worth looking into. A couple of other possible
advantages would be the ability to update Base on a different
schedule with regard to the others, which could simplify testing for
both packages, and the opportunity to package the major extensions as
optional parts of the installation with more visibility into their
capabilities. I wouldn't expect the Base user community to be upset
by having a separate download for it.
I haven't yet used Base, tho I hope to one day replace Access97 with
it. That's why I follow these discussions.
I'd have no problem with the idea of offering Base the way Access is -
both as a separate module and as an optional part of OpenOffice. I DO
want it to be able to interact well with Calc (and with Excel) in
terms of being able to read, import and export table-style data
to/from those spreadsheets. (I'm not familiar enough to know how well
it currently does those things.)
-- Tim Deaton
Currently, this kind of transfer works through the OS clipboard, and
there are a few things that could be smoother. You can get the job done,
though. I'm in the process of trying to come up with some kind of UI
definition for Import/Export functions, it'll appear in the OOo wiki for
comment/modification. Feel free to send me any ideas of how you'd like
it to work, either on or off this list!
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