Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
although charts in reports are a big step, what most users (at least
those I've talked to) want is (to switch from) a stand alone chart,
form, report, data-pilot-like representation of their data... just
like MS Access does.
IMHO following the MS Access way will be an error (I mean: switching
from one representation to the other by just a simple button - any of
us with some complex MS Access form surely had experience the way how
MS Access destroys hours of work by just switching from one
representation to the other).
So, one does it like MS Access, only better...
So I'd be happy with the following:
* stand alone charts, as an own database element (together with
Tables, Queries, Forms, Reports): a chart *inside* a report may be
too much for users who only want a chart representation of their data
Ah, thank you - I meant to bring that up. Although you can produce a
report with a chart ONLY, how to do it is not exactly what I would call
intuitive.
* charts inside forms: now they are impossible (via programming, one
can insert a chart in a form, but it will only work in design view:
when the form is alive, the embedded object is deactivated)
Yes - I believe that was mentioned in an earlier email..( I was not able
to do much of anything for OOo for a good while and read a bunch of
emails over the last week in order to catch up)..IIRCC Frank asked if
there where a RFE on that subject...One of us should check and
accommodate his request and open one if not already there. I can do so
later tonight, less you beat me to it.
* a data-pilot-like representation of the data: now these can be
achieved via OOo Calc, but again this is too much work for some kind
of users
Well, certain database engines already have support for this, either via
built in functions of through third party libraries, but not all. There
is a free, but not open source, java library for HSQLdb that supports
the functionaltity - but I would not call that a solution, per se.
So, maybe just writing an OS java libarary for HSQLdb would fill the gap???
Any way "charts in reports" is a nice and useful feature, and Ocke did
a great job, thanks for that!
hmmm - here is a little something I picked up on the 'net' as I was
catching up on my reading:
"On the flip side, it appears that BI teams have quite a few levers to
increase usage
among BI tool users. (See Figure 7.) Chief among these is integrating
the BI environment with
Microsoft Office (54%). Since many users need to work in Excel to
develop complex business plans
and models and use PowerPoint to display results to managers and teams,
it only makes sense to
bring these toolsets more closely into the BI orbit. Many BI vendors
have done just that in recent
years, making these tools full-fledged clients to their BI
applications." http://www.sas.com/technologies/bi/103516_0708.pdf (Page 9 )
Till later then -
Drew
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