On 2/14/2014 10:27, Sascha Wildner wrote: > On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 10:03:40 +0100, John Marino <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Problem 2: The bugs.dragonflybsd.org is not properly monitored. "Real" >> bug PR gets opened and nobody responds to them, probably because they >> don't even know about them. Redmine simply isn't in the forefront > > It is your assumption (and not more) that no response means no one looks > at it. There are in fact more reasons than just "no one cares" which > lead to no one responding to an issue. Which? Just think about why _you_ > don't respond to every issue on bugs@. You'll see the same phenomenon in > other projects too, even where it's "properly monitored".
It is not an assumption. I have repeatedly told people about PRs on Redmine that they weren't aware of, but could or even should have been. I didn't say nobody cares (that is putting words in my mouth), I said it wasn't effectively monitored and I firmly stand by that assessment on more than assumptions and feelings. And I disagree that properly monitored projects leave no response to a PR as acceptable. By my definition, no response means it's not monitored. Somebody need to triage, assign, and that person needs to analyze and disposition. None of that is going on, we *SUCK* at PR management. Other projects suck too. For example. the FreeBSD ports PRs aren't properly monitored -- it only sort of works because of robotic triage. > >> Problem 4: A common problem with all the free projects, not following up >> on "bugs" but leaving them to rot for years and years. Many open bugs >> are obsolete or solved, but the report is still open. However, the >> prevailing thought is just leave them alone. > > No, the prevailing thought is to leave bugs open which might still be > present (and thus not confirmedly solved or obsolete), and not just > close them by age. If you know a bug that is obsolete or solved, feel > free to close it. I did that for a while, got flak for it, got overwhelmed by it, and got beaten down by it. I'm not going to try to maintain a system where everyone else disagrees how it should be maintained (or rather agrees it should not be maintained). You win - you use redmine, I'm washing my hands of the whole thing. John
