Thankyou guys,

I will try and look at both service hooks and @AspectService(ranking=1)...
I see I still have a bit of information to process to get up to walking
speed

Ivanbhoe


On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Marcel Offermans <
[email protected]> wrote:

> On Mar 31, 2010, at 11:12 , Guillaume Nodet wrote:
>
> > Wouldn't it make more sense to use service hooks instead ?
>
> Service hooks are somewhat less dynamic in that I cannot decide lateron to
> install them and have them work with "everything that was already in place".
> This is explained in 12.7.3 about Ordering. I wanted to have this ability,
> even for services that were already used by clients before the aspect was
> installed. If you don't need that ability, and don't mind being able to run
> only on 4.2 frameworks, then service hooks are a good alternative.
>
> > The current design is limited as if a user wants to grab the list of
> > services and use those, that would not work.
>
> That depends on how you actually grab that list of course. If you just grab
> a list of all services of a certain type, that won't work, but it's not
> actually too hard to pick only the highest ranking service if there are
> multiple services in the list that otherwise have the same properties. But
> you are right, this is a little bit more involved and would be simpler if
> service hooks were used.
>
> Perhaps it would be nice to have the option to use service hooks if your
> trade offs are different and you don't mind having to install the hooks
> first.
>
> Greetings, Marcel
>
>
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 11:06, Marcel Offermans <
> [email protected]
> >> wrote:
> >
> >> On Mar 31, 2010, at 11:02 , Ivanhoe Abrahams wrote:
> >>
> >>> This is helpful in getting me pointing in the right direction.
> >>> So just to recap.
> >>>
> >>> Option 1 in your email is the traditional approach where you have aop
> >>> pointcuts, etc. defined
> >>> Option 2 is intercepting the calls and dynamically weaves in
> >>> code...something akin to asm bytecode weaving?
> >>
> >> It does not do bytecode weaving at all, it relies on the fact that
> services
> >> have a service ranking, so the aspect simply publishes a service with
> all
> >> the same properties as the original one, but a higher ranking. Clients
> will
> >> automatically pick the service with the highest ranking. So there's no
> >> bytecode weaving at all (which makes debugging a lot easier, since your
> code
> >> still looks exactly like you wrote it).
> >>
> >> Greetings, Marcel
> >>
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