Hi Jochen,
In that case, for a 10 years container, what's the difference (in term
of changes and maintenance) between Felix Framework and Karaf Container ?
Regards
JB
On 12/17/2014 03:36 PM, Jochen Wiedmann wrote:
The problem with the easy/flexible/enterprise ready container on top
of the framework is, that a real lot of users (including me) cannot
use it, because their applications *must* run within a
difficult/inflexible/enterprise ready 10 years ago container. Or, in
other words: A solution must be available outside Karaf anyways.
Jochen
On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <[email protected]> wrote:
I agree, but Karaf is flexible enough to create your own custom
distribution, where you easily assembly what you need.
I know that some of you may think that OSGi is enough by itself, and a
container doesn't make sense, but I disagree about that. Providing an
easy/flexible/enterprise ready container on top of the framework is very
interesting for the users.
My $0.02
Regards
JB
On 12/17/2014 03:22 PM, Milen Dyankov wrote:
Well if someone says he wants to use B instead of A, I assume he/she has
his reasons. That's why I tend to avoid answering like "just stay with A"
as it doesn't really help. Besides, you don't really need everything Karaf
comes with, in order to define and use datasources. Depends on the use
case
one may end up anywhere between installing 2-3 bundles to building custom
Karaf.
Best,
Milen
On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 2:46 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <[email protected]>
wrote:
Hi guys,
if at the end, you install the same bundles as in Karaf (where we also
bring some configuration and convenient commands), the question is why
not
directly using Karaf ;)
Regards
JB
On 12/17/2014 02:44 PM, Milen Dyankov wrote:
You probably know this but just to make it clear - Karaf is not directly
comparable with Felix. It can use Felix or Equinox but it comes OOTB
with
many bundles pre-installed. That is why your datasource "works" in
Karaf.
It will work in Felix if you have appropriate bundles (that understand
what
datasource is, how is defined and how to deal with it) installed. In
your
case this is first the blueprint impl to process your blueprint config.
Then it depend on what really a 'datasource' is in your case you'll need
some more. Have a look at
https://repo1.maven.org/maven2/org/apache/karaf/
features/enterprise/3.0.2/enterprise-3.0.2-features.xml
to see what Karaf uses if you want to stick with those implementations.
There you'll see a "jdbc", "jpa", ... features and what bundles they
consists of. Depending on what exactly is your use case, you may or may
not
need to install all of them!
Best,
Milen
On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Achim Nierbeck
<[email protected]>
wrote:
No I'm not saying that,
but if he expects to use blueprint xml definitions for a datasource
he'll
need to put all those bundles back in again, in
the end he might end up with the Karaf-minimal distro so where is the
point?
regards, Achim
2014-12-17 14:02 GMT+01:00 Neil Bartlett <[email protected]>:
Achim, are you seriously saying that you need the complete Karaf stack
just in order to use a datasource?? That’s nuts.
RamaKrishna, what is the issue you’re having? If you have a datasource
bundle you can just install it in Felix and it will work. If not,
please
report the errors you get.
Regards,
Neil
On 17 Dec 2014, at 12:51, Achim Nierbeck <[email protected]>
wrote:
Any reason not to stick to Karaf as your container as it uses Felix
as
its
framework?
Otherwise you'll need to re-assemble the complete stack that is used
inside
Karaf.
So you'll need to add the blueprint bundles first, those can be found
at
the Aries Project.
Now you'll need to make sure you have Felix File install configured
correctly and installed with your framework.
For that you'll need some sort of main that does the bootstrapping of
bundles that need to be part of the "basic" setup.
...
I think I could go on for about 4 to 5 other projects you most likely
would
need.
Again, why don't you stick to Karaf as it brings all of this
infrastructural glueing?
regards, Achim
2014-12-17 12:13 GMT+01:00 Ramakrishna R <[email protected]>:
Team,
I want to know how to configure datasource in Felix container. I
have
a
blueprint that contains datasource info, this i want to make work in
Felix.
In Karaf when i put it in deploy folder it works perfectly. Am not
getting
a direction as how to achive this in felix.
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