Thanks so much Lee 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Lee Burrows" <[email protected]> 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 6:06:24 PM 
Subject: Re: newbie on profiling with Scout, Flex, and FP non-debugger and 
debugger versions 

this is the link to bookmark: 
http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/archived-flash-player-versions.html#Flash
 
Player archives 
<http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/archived-flash-player-versions.html#Flash%20Player%20archives>
 
- each zip contains standard and debug versions for both browser types 
(plus standalone version) 

On 23/10/2013 02:00, [email protected] wrote: 
> OK, I think I figured some stuff out... Flash Player can't be switched 
> between debug and non-debug in Safari and Firefox (without an extension at 
> least). You need to uninstall the current version before installing a 
> different version. 
> 
> Seems only Chrome allows easy switching between debug and non-debug, but 
> you're restricted to using the latest version. 
> 
> The non-debug version is available here: 
> 
> http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/ 
> 
> The website auto-detects your system and the file you download is the latest 
> one appropriate for you. The confusing thing is that it doesn't state that 
> it's the non-debug version, or where to go for the debug version. 
> 
> Alternatively, the debug version is available here: 
> 
> http://www.adobe.com/support/flashplayer/downloads.html 
> 
> but there's no link stating where to go for the non-debug version. However, 
> clicking on "Get the latest version" brings you to the first link above, 
> which is for the non-debug version. 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> 
> From: [email protected] 
> To: [email protected] 
> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 5:32:02 PM 
> Subject: Re: newbie on profiling with Scout, Flex, and FP non-debugger and 
> debugger versions 
> 
> Thanks Lee, I can toggle between nondebugger and debugger in Chrome pretty 
> easily. 
> 
> I guess the unsolved generic question is how to install non-debugger version 
> in Safari or Firefox? 
> 
> That is, I don't see separate downloads for debugger and nondebugger here: 
> 
> http://www.adobe.com/support/flashplayer/downloads.html 
> 
> which seems to be the place to download Flash Player. But, the downloads 
> shown, if I'm looking at this correctly, are only for debugger and projector 
> versions. Where is the non-debugger version that 99% of users (e.g. not 
> developers) use? 
> 
> I know Chrome ships with it, but I don't think the others do. If I have 
> version Flash Player 11.9.900.117 installed on my system, does it include 
> both debugger and non-debugger? If so, how to activate one versus the other 
> (e.g. on Firefox or Safari)? 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> 
> From: "Lee Burrows" <[email protected]> 
> To: [email protected] 
> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 4:22:42 PM 
> Subject: Re: newbie on profiling with Scout, Flex, and FP non-debugger and 
> debugger versions 
> 
> you can check which versions are installed in chrome by navigating to 
> "chrome://plugins/" from chrome. in the new page, click on "details" on 
> right hand side. 
> 
> the first plugin(s) listed should be Flash Player and the descriptions 
> should tell you what is installed - just "disable" the version you don't 
> want running. 
> 
> On 23/10/2013 00:01, [email protected] wrote: 
>> Thanks Lee, makes a lot of sense. Looks like I've already got non-debugger 
>> and debugger versions installed in Chrome, although you can't tell by the 
>> label -- they both reference 11.9.900.117, so perhaps there's one install 
>> for both debugger and non-debugger versions? (no idea) 
>> 
>> When I followed Adobe's standard install for the debugger, it appears to 
>> have installed on all browsers in my system. 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> 
>> From: "Lee Burrows" <[email protected]> 
>> To: [email protected] 
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 3:49:16 PM 
>> Subject: Re: newbie on profiling with Scout, Flex, and FP non-debugger and 
>> debugger versions 
>> 
>> re 2, i use debugger player in one browser (IE in my case) and default 
>> player in another (chrome). If you use chrome, i think you can install 2 
>> separate version of flash player (enter chrome://plugins/ into chrome to 
>> switch between versions) 
>> 
>> On 22/10/2013 23:37, [email protected] wrote: 
>>> Hello, 
>>> 
>>> I have some places in my app when entering a new state is not very 
>>> responsive (a lot of math is computed within a frame and causes the system 
>>> to display a spinning wheel while the CPU catches up, lasting about 5 
>>> seconds). I want to try placing some callLater() functions to break up the 
>>> one long frame into several smaller frames, to make the app more smoothly 
>>> transition from one state to the next. 
>>> 
>>> I'd like to use Scout to time the execution of various functions to figure 
>>> out where to place callLater(). So far, all my development has been on the 
>>> debugger version of Flash Player 11.9.900.117 (the current version). 
>>> 
>>> Some newbie questions: 
>>> 
>>> 1. My understanding in reading about Scout is that the debugger version is 
>>> only required for memory profiling. Thus, I can use the non-debugger 
>>> version to get accurate timing information using the techniques discussed 
>>> here: 
>>> 
>>> http://www.adobe.com/devnet/scout/articles/adobe-scout-custom-telemetry.html
>>>  
>>> 
>>> (e.g. trace(), Telemetry.sendMetric(), and Telemetry.sendSpanMetric) 
>>> 
>>> Is that correct? 
>>> 
>>> 2. What's the best way to switch between debugger and non-debugger flash 
>>> player versions? Do I need to uninstall the debugger first, then install 
>>> the non-debugger version? Then if I want to go back to the non-debugger 
>>> version, do I need to uninstall the non-debugger version, and then install 
>>> the debugger version? 
>>> 
>>> Or, is there really only one install needed, and then somehow in the 
>>> browser select a switch that turns the debugger on/off? 
>>> 
>>> I'm really confused on this because when I right-click on my running app, 
>>> it shows I'm using 11.9.900,117, although it doesn't say debugger or not. 
>>> If I go to this website: 
>>> 
>>> http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/find-version-flash-player.html 
>>> 
>>> it does indeed show "Debug Player: Yes". However, when I search google to 
>>> install non-debugger Flash Player, it brings me to 
>>> 
>>> http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/ 
>>> 
>>> which says it will install version 11.9.900.117 -- which is what I already 
>>> have installed, right !? So, there must be something I'm missing. How do I 
>>> install the non-debugger Flash Player? 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
> 


-- 
Lee Burrows 
ActionScripter 


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