no problem :)

On 23/10/2013 02:18, [email protected] wrote:
Thanks so much Lee

----- Original Message -----

From: "Lee Burrows" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 6:06:24 PM
Subject: Re: newbie on profiling with Scout, Flex, and FP non-debugger and 
debugger versions

this is the link to bookmark:
http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/archived-flash-player-versions.html#Flash
Player archives
<http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/archived-flash-player-versions.html#Flash%20Player%20archives>
- each zip contains standard and debug versions for both browser types
(plus standalone version)

On 23/10/2013 02:00, [email protected] wrote:
OK, I think I figured some stuff out... Flash Player can't be switched between 
debug and non-debug in Safari and Firefox (without an extension at least). You 
need to uninstall the current version before installing a different version.

Seems only Chrome allows easy switching between debug and non-debug, but you're 
restricted to using the latest version.

The non-debug version is available here:

http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/

The website auto-detects your system and the file you download is the latest 
one appropriate for you. The confusing thing is that it doesn't state that it's 
the non-debug version, or where to go for the debug version.

Alternatively, the debug version is available here:

http://www.adobe.com/support/flashplayer/downloads.html

but there's no link stating where to go for the non-debug version. However, clicking on 
"Get the latest version" brings you to the first link above, which is for the 
non-debug version.


----- Original Message -----

From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 5:32:02 PM
Subject: Re: newbie on profiling with Scout, Flex, and FP non-debugger and 
debugger versions

Thanks Lee, I can toggle between nondebugger and debugger in Chrome pretty 
easily.

I guess the unsolved generic question is how to install non-debugger version in 
Safari or Firefox?

That is, I don't see separate downloads for debugger and nondebugger here:

http://www.adobe.com/support/flashplayer/downloads.html

which seems to be the place to download Flash Player. But, the downloads shown, 
if I'm looking at this correctly, are only for debugger and projector versions. 
Where is the non-debugger version that 99% of users (e.g. not developers) use?

I know Chrome ships with it, but I don't think the others do. If I have version 
Flash Player 11.9.900.117 installed on my system, does it include both debugger 
and non-debugger? If so, how to activate one versus the other (e.g. on Firefox 
or Safari)?

----- Original Message -----

From: "Lee Burrows" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 4:22:42 PM
Subject: Re: newbie on profiling with Scout, Flex, and FP non-debugger and 
debugger versions

you can check which versions are installed in chrome by navigating to
"chrome://plugins/" from chrome. in the new page, click on "details" on
right hand side.

the first plugin(s) listed should be Flash Player and the descriptions
should tell you what is installed - just "disable" the version you don't
want running.

On 23/10/2013 00:01, [email protected] wrote:
Thanks Lee, makes a lot of sense. Looks like I've already got non-debugger and 
debugger versions installed in Chrome, although you can't tell by the label -- 
they both reference 11.9.900.117, so perhaps there's one install for both 
debugger and non-debugger versions? (no idea)

When I followed Adobe's standard install for the debugger, it appears to have 
installed on all browsers in my system.

----- Original Message -----

From: "Lee Burrows" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 3:49:16 PM
Subject: Re: newbie on profiling with Scout, Flex, and FP non-debugger and 
debugger versions

re 2, i use debugger player in one browser (IE in my case) and default
player in another (chrome). If you use chrome, i think you can install 2
separate version of flash player (enter chrome://plugins/ into chrome to
switch between versions)

On 22/10/2013 23:37, [email protected] wrote:
Hello,

I have some places in my app when entering a new state is not very responsive 
(a lot of math is computed within a frame and causes the system to display a 
spinning wheel while the CPU catches up, lasting about 5 seconds). I want to 
try placing some callLater() functions to break up the one long frame into 
several smaller frames, to make the app more smoothly transition from one state 
to the next.

I'd like to use Scout to time the execution of various functions to figure out 
where to place callLater(). So far, all my development has been on the debugger 
version of Flash Player 11.9.900.117 (the current version).

Some newbie questions:

1. My understanding in reading about Scout is that the debugger version is only 
required for memory profiling. Thus, I can use the non-debugger version to get 
accurate timing information using the techniques discussed here:

http://www.adobe.com/devnet/scout/articles/adobe-scout-custom-telemetry.html

(e.g. trace(), Telemetry.sendMetric(), and Telemetry.sendSpanMetric)

Is that correct?

2. What's the best way to switch between debugger and non-debugger flash player 
versions? Do I need to uninstall the debugger first, then install the 
non-debugger version? Then if I want to go back to the non-debugger version, do 
I need to uninstall the non-debugger version, and then install the debugger 
version?

Or, is there really only one install needed, and then somehow in the browser 
select a switch that turns the debugger on/off?

I'm really confused on this because when I right-click on my running app, it 
shows I'm using 11.9.900,117, although it doesn't say debugger or not. If I go 
to this website:

http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/find-version-flash-player.html

it does indeed show "Debug Player: Yes". However, when I search google to 
install non-debugger Flash Player, it brings me to

http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/

which says it will install version 11.9.900.117 -- which is what I already have 
installed, right !? So, there must be something I'm missing. How do I install 
the non-debugger Flash Player?






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Lee Burrows
ActionScripter

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