I think we will have to disagree on this.

Three things (that I can think of quickly), which would be difficult without a 
GUI;

I use quite regularly the alignment capabilities of the IDE, where I select 
multiple items and align right, left, bottom, middle , top & center. If I have 
20 fields on a form I want to align I can't do it visually using the immediate 
display technique. Additionally when I am initially designing my form, the code 
may not be complete enough to be displayed in a browser.

I will also often grab multiple items and move them around the screen, with 
their relative positions intact.

Selecting multiple items and then modifying multiple properties for the 
selected items.

Doing all of this manually is a waste of valuable developers time, and a step 
back into the dark ages. Yes having something that displays your changes in 
near real-time is better than nothing, but hardly a replacement for a good GUI 
IDE.

Paul R. Stearns
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From: Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com.INVALID>
Sent: 3/11/20 11:19 AM
To: "users@flex.apache.org" <users@flex.apache.org>
Subject: Re: GUI IDE need.

On 3/11/20, 4:43 AM, "Olaf Krueger" wrote:

Hi Paul,

>If however you want to design highly usable business applications deployed
to thin clients (to use an ancient phrase) you need GUI tools to be
productive.

Not agree.
Modern JS frameworks are supporting "hot reload" (Royale not yet) which
means the browser view is refreshing automatically after any code
change/compilation... and depending on the framework and project, this just
takes seconds or milliseconds. So, you see the results in near realtime
instead of waiting for the compiler and restarting your app all the time.

Hence my hope that someone will make live-editing of Royale MXML work. IMO, Any 
IDE DesignView equivalent that doesn't use a browser to render is going to have 
fidelity issues. Live-editing has the potential to be even better than 
hot-reload for some scenarios.

Of course, I could be wrong...
-Alex


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