Many thanks for the clarification Andrew! :) El vie., 12 jun. 2020 a las 11:13, Frost, Andrew (<andrew.fr...@harman.com>) escribió:
> Hi > > Sorry! no, there shouldn’t be any problem with AIR continuing to render > the same Flex apps that they do at the moment. It will still render > Flash-based and HTML-based content just the same as it does now. > > The changes are where you're trying to use an HTML-based AIR application > to load in embedded Flash content via the browser plug-in: initially AIR > had its own version of Flash Player that it provided for this, but for many > years now it's just used the system plug-in and of course that's the > element that goes out of support at the end of this year. > > So AIR will still be fine for all the existing apps that just use this, > and is a good way of turning a web-based Flex application into a > desktop-app-style Flex application as long as you don't need the HTML/JS > interactions via ExternalInterface and the like... > > Sorry to cause confusion! > > thanks > > Andrew > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Carlos Rovira <carlosrov...@apache.org> > Sent: 12 June 2020 09:46 > To: users@flex.apache.org > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Keeping user applications up to date in AIR. > > Hi Andrew, > > I'm a bit confused here with your email. Do you mean that AIR apps in 2021 > will not be able to render Flash/Flex apps? > I think many people count on that. > > Thanks > > > > El jue., 11 jun. 2020 a las 21:58, Frost, Andrew (<andrew.fr...@harman.com > >) > escribió: > > > Hi all > > > > Yes, using AIR to load some HTML content is still supported although > > the WebKit version in AIR is around 10 years old (we've been asked to > > update it to a more recent version - which could be quite a large job, > > and it's not clear whether this is actually widely used any more..) > > > > Brian is quite right though. The issue will be that AIR doesn't ship > > with the Flash Player, it ships with some placeholders now which would > > take you to the Adobe "download Flash Player" page, and of course this > > is disappearing in the new year. The WebKit engine would work with the > > NPAPI version of Flash Player if you do have this installed, but this > > isn't something you should bank on for long term usage and isn't > > something that can (legally) be copied. See > > https://clicktime.symantec.com/352mqQSY8RsAPPtdD2MVkZ57Vc?u=https%3A%2 > > F%2Fwww.adobe.com%2Fproducts%2Fflashplayer%2Fend-of-life.html for a > recent update. > > > > We have some additional rights from Adobe that allow us to provide the > > Flash Player - with a number of terms and conditions attached - for > > some specific use cases, which can give people some additional > > breathing space to continue migrating their applications. But this is > > a commercial offering, we have some details available on our website > > and are planning to update this further in the next few weeks (after a > > few more announcements from relevant parties have been made). For the > > general public and any home user, you really shouldn't expect them to > > have the ability to view general Flash-based content from next year > > (unless of course you switch to deploying it as an AIR application!) > > > > thanks > > > > Andrew > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com.INVALID> > > Sent: 11 June 2020 17:40 > > To: users@flex.apache.org > > Subject: Re: Keeping user applications up to date in AIR. > > > > Hi, > > > > It would be wise to test on a clean machine and consider how you will > > get the Flash Player in the future as I don't think Adobe will be > > providing them. Harman might. > > > > It's been a long time since I've dealt with these sort of issues and I > > think there may have been additional security restrictions added in > > AIR since, but I thought that folks had successfully used a Flex/AIR > > shell to load code modules from the network. > > > > HTH, > > -Alex > > > > On 6/10/20, 10:26 AM, "Brian Raymes" <brian.ray...@teotech.com> wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > I am interested in a work-around as well, but unless I'm mistaken, > > the solution below may not work at the end of the year given a change > > to AIR starting in version 22? > > > > "Starting in AIR 22, applications that play swf content via the > > HTML control (WebKit) will now load the system level NPAPI Flash > > Player provided by Adobe ( > > > https://clicktime.symantec.com/3VPJfW8zgdNptNyqxdTCXxZ7Vc?u=https%3A%2F%2Fnam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com%2F%3Furl%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fget.adobe.com%252Fflashplayer%26data%3D02%257C01%257Caharui%2540adobe.com%257C9eea501409b94b4c598e08d80d635f6c%257Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%257C0%257C0%257C637274067748313564%26sdata%3DqxHnFxYlktD8GXnl909Ki662ALtZtHYeyEBFISiIq3Q%253D%26reserved%3D0 > ). > > If this plugin is not available on the system, the end user will be > > prompted to download and install the plugin from Adobe." > > > > Source: > > https://clicktime.symantec.com/3NGtxWnAcgo3uVMsnqE5YfQ7Vc?u=https%3A%2 > > F%2Fnam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com%2F%3Furl%3Dhttps%253A%252F% > > 252Fhelpx.adobe.com%252Fflash-player%252Frelease-note%252Ffp_22_air_22 > > _release_notes.html%26data%3D02%257C01%257Caharui%2540adobe.com%257C9e > > ea501409b94b4c598e08d80d635f6c%257Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%25 > > 7C0%257C0%257C637274067748313564%26sdata%3DwcwY4T3y%252BXHZuBGCs%252BM > > VA0FTWpwsnqSHubIorghT3Uk%253D%26reserved%3D0 > > > > If the plugin is to be removed from browsers, will the solution > > below continue to work? Will Flash still be available to install > separately? > > Could it be as simple as holding onto a legacy NPAPI installer? > > > > Brian > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Paulus de B. <w.p.stuur...@knollenstein.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2020 2:04 AM > > To: users@flex.apache.org > > Subject: Re: Keeping user applications up to date in AIR. > > > > Hi Paul, > > > > We actually had the exact same setup in that we had an swf > > application we needed to continue using after browsers stopped > supporting flash. > > > > What we did for the time being (but works very well): create an > > AIR application that uses the flex HTML control to load your swfs like > > you did in the browser. > > > > Create a WindowedApplication (Flex) with just one control in it: > > <controls:HTML id="htmlControl" width="100%" height="100%" > > horizontalScrollPolicy="off" verticalScrollPolicy="off" /> > > > > On the creationComplete > > // Load your web application > > htmlControl.location = "https://app..."; > > > > In the end we did add the AIR updating functionality, but only for > > updating the AIR app (which rarely happens). The swfs are loaded / > > reloaded like the were in the browser. > > > > Cheers > > > > Paulus > > > > > > > > -- > > Sent from: > > https://clicktime.symantec.com/3RZHoU2z9UZpGA8ahHcMKkM7Vc?u=https%3A%2 > > F%2Fnam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com%2F%3Furl%3Dhttp%253A%252F%2 > > 52Fapache-flex-users.2333346.n4.nabble.com%252F%26data%3D02%257C01%257 > > Caharui%2540adobe.com%257C9eea501409b94b4c598e08d80d635f6c%257Cfa7b1b5 > > a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%257C0%257C0%257C637274067748313564%26sdata%3 > > DvDXzfC0pZMJOH4HuH32wzSDKBAJzO%252BPFxaW9bEIhaG0%253D%26reserved%3D0 > > > > > > -- > Carlos Rovira > > https://clicktime.symantec.com/3XryfPjaS2kJvLhNLKtgNnG7Vc?u=http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%2Fcarlosrovira > -- Carlos Rovira http://about.me/carlosrovira