Many thanks for the clarification Andrew! :)

El vie., 12 jun. 2020 a las 11:13, Frost, Andrew (<andrew.fr...@harman.com>)
escribió:

> Hi
>
> Sorry! no, there shouldn’t be any problem with AIR continuing to render
> the same Flex apps that they do at the moment. It will still render
> Flash-based and HTML-based content just the same as it does now.
>
> The changes are where you're trying to use an HTML-based AIR application
> to load in embedded Flash content via the browser plug-in: initially AIR
> had its own version of Flash Player that it provided for this, but for many
> years now it's just used the system plug-in and of course that's the
> element that goes out of support at the end of this year.
>
> So AIR will still be fine for all the existing apps that just use this,
> and is a good way of turning a web-based Flex application into a
> desktop-app-style Flex application as long as you don't need the HTML/JS
> interactions via ExternalInterface and the like...
>
> Sorry to cause confusion!
>
> thanks
>
>   Andrew
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Carlos Rovira <carlosrov...@apache.org>
> Sent: 12 June 2020 09:46
> To: users@flex.apache.org
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Keeping user applications up to date in AIR.
>
> Hi Andrew,
>
> I'm a bit confused here with your email. Do you mean that AIR apps in 2021
> will not be able to render Flash/Flex apps?
> I think many people count on that.
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> El jue., 11 jun. 2020 a las 21:58, Frost, Andrew (<andrew.fr...@harman.com
> >)
> escribió:
>
> > Hi all
> >
> > Yes, using AIR to load some HTML content is still supported although
> > the WebKit version in AIR is around 10 years old (we've been asked to
> > update it to a more recent version - which could be quite a large job,
> > and it's not clear whether this is actually widely used any more..)
> >
> > Brian is quite right though. The issue will be that AIR doesn't ship
> > with the Flash Player, it ships with some placeholders now which would
> > take you to the Adobe "download Flash Player" page, and of course this
> > is disappearing in the new year. The WebKit engine would work with the
> > NPAPI version of Flash Player if you do have this installed, but this
> > isn't something you should bank on for long term usage and isn't
> > something that can (legally) be copied. See
> > https://clicktime.symantec.com/352mqQSY8RsAPPtdD2MVkZ57Vc?u=https%3A%2
> > F%2Fwww.adobe.com%2Fproducts%2Fflashplayer%2Fend-of-life.html for a
> recent update.
> >
> > We have some additional rights from Adobe that allow us to provide the
> > Flash Player - with a number of terms and conditions attached - for
> > some specific use cases, which can give people some additional
> > breathing space to continue migrating their applications. But this is
> > a commercial offering, we have some details available on our website
> > and are planning to update this further in the next few weeks (after a
> > few more announcements from relevant parties have been made). For the
> > general public and any home user, you really shouldn't expect them to
> > have the ability to view general Flash-based content from next year
> > (unless of course you switch to deploying it as an AIR application!)
> >
> > thanks
> >
> >    Andrew
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com.INVALID>
> > Sent: 11 June 2020 17:40
> > To: users@flex.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: Keeping user applications up to date in AIR.
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > It would be wise to test on a clean machine and consider how you will
> > get the Flash Player in the future as I don't think Adobe will be
> > providing them.  Harman might.
> >
> > It's been a long time since I've dealt with these sort of issues and I
> > think there may have been additional security restrictions added in
> > AIR since, but I thought that folks had successfully used a Flex/AIR
> > shell to load code modules from the network.
> >
> > HTH,
> > -Alex
> >
> > On 6/10/20, 10:26 AM, "Brian Raymes" <brian.ray...@teotech.com> wrote:
> >
> >     Hi all,
> >
> >     I am interested in a work-around as well, but unless I'm mistaken,
> > the solution below may not work at the end of the year given a change
> > to AIR starting in version 22?
> >
> >     "Starting in AIR 22, applications that play swf content via the
> > HTML control (WebKit) will now load the system level NPAPI Flash
> > Player provided by Adobe (
> >
> https://clicktime.symantec.com/3VPJfW8zgdNptNyqxdTCXxZ7Vc?u=https%3A%2F%2Fnam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com%2F%3Furl%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fget.adobe.com%252Fflashplayer%26data%3D02%257C01%257Caharui%2540adobe.com%257C9eea501409b94b4c598e08d80d635f6c%257Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%257C0%257C0%257C637274067748313564%26sdata%3DqxHnFxYlktD8GXnl909Ki662ALtZtHYeyEBFISiIq3Q%253D%26reserved%3D0
> ).
> > If this plugin is not available on the system, the end user will be
> > prompted to download and install the plugin from Adobe."
> >
> >     Source:
> > https://clicktime.symantec.com/3NGtxWnAcgo3uVMsnqE5YfQ7Vc?u=https%3A%2
> > F%2Fnam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com%2F%3Furl%3Dhttps%253A%252F%
> > 252Fhelpx.adobe.com%252Fflash-player%252Frelease-note%252Ffp_22_air_22
> > _release_notes.html%26data%3D02%257C01%257Caharui%2540adobe.com%257C9e
> > ea501409b94b4c598e08d80d635f6c%257Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%25
> > 7C0%257C0%257C637274067748313564%26sdata%3DwcwY4T3y%252BXHZuBGCs%252BM
> > VA0FTWpwsnqSHubIorghT3Uk%253D%26reserved%3D0
> >
> >     If the plugin is to be removed from browsers, will the solution
> > below continue to work? Will Flash still be available to install
> separately?
> > Could it be as simple as holding onto a legacy NPAPI installer?
> >
> >     Brian
> >
> >     -----Original Message-----
> >     From: Paulus de B. <w.p.stuur...@knollenstein.com>
> >     Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2020 2:04 AM
> >     To: users@flex.apache.org
> >     Subject: Re: Keeping user applications up to date in AIR.
> >
> >     Hi Paul,
> >
> >     We actually had the exact same setup in that we had an swf
> > application we needed to continue using after browsers stopped
> supporting flash.
> >
> >     What we did for the time being (but works very well): create an
> > AIR application that uses the flex HTML control to load your swfs like
> > you did in the browser.
> >
> >     Create a WindowedApplication (Flex) with just one control in it:
> >     <controls:HTML id="htmlControl" width="100%" height="100%"
> >     horizontalScrollPolicy="off" verticalScrollPolicy="off" />
> >
> >     On the creationComplete
> >     // Load your web application
> >     htmlControl.location = "https://app...";;
> >
> >     In the end we did add the AIR updating functionality, but only for
> > updating the AIR app (which rarely happens). The swfs are loaded /
> > reloaded like the were in the browser.
> >
> >     Cheers
> >
> >     Paulus
> >
> >
> >
> >     --
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>
> --
> Carlos Rovira
>
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