Yes, exactly.

Office must do something special for the MIME-type associations, I was hoping 
LibreOffice did something similar.

Cheers,
Ian

On 2011-06-28, at 8:20 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:

> Still clarifying my understanding:
> 
> The files are being uploaded to a server via browser uploading?
> 
> Hmm.  Somewhere back around Windows 98 I remember MIME-type associations in 
> the File Associations dialog, but I haven't seen them in any recent systems.
> 
> So the question is, how can one control the MIME type of a file that is 
> uploaded.
> 
> I rummaged around on the Internet and I couldn't find much.  This may be 
> helpful:
> 
> <http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms775148(v=vs.85).aspx>
> 
> There's more here specifically on how IE determines the MIME type for an 
> upload:
> < http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms775147(v=VS.85).aspx>
> 
> - Dennis
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ian Long [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 16:44
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and Microsoft Office files - 
> MIME type problem
> 
> Yes, that's correct, the files are being uploaded as .doc, .xls, etc but 
> Microsoft Office isn't installed on the machines that are uploading the 
> files, just LibreOffice.
> 
> Internet Explorer can't figure out the MIME type to send to the server when 
> submitting the form, so it just sends application/octet-stream.
> 
> If Office is installed on a machine that uploads the same files, IE does send 
> the correct MIME type.
> 
> I guess there isn't an option in LibreOffice to associate the .doc, .xls MIME 
> types as MS Office does?
> 
> Cheers,
> Ian
> 
> On 2011-06-28, at 7:37 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
> 
>> Oh wait, these are being uploaded as .doc, .xls, and .ppt but those apps 
>> aren't on the machine where the downloading is happening.  Is that the case?
>> 
>> Hmm.  Sounds like what's missing is some sort of browser helper.  And 
>> LibreOffice is registered as the application that opens .doc, .xls, and .ppt 
>> files?  
>> 
>> Still, it would be useful to see if this improves if the MIME types for 
>> those Microsoft formats were delivered by the server.  It may be that 
>> Microsoft Office compensates for this problem when it is installed.  We'll 
>> know that if getting the server to use the correct MIME types doesn't help.
>> 
>> - Dennis
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:[email protected]] 
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 16:33
>> To: '[email protected]'
>> Subject: RE: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and Microsoft Office files - 
>> MIME type problem
>> 
>> This is a common problem with web servers.  
>> 
>> Browsers don't set the MIME type, they receive it in the response from the 
>> Web Server, along with the resource itself.  It is likely that the Web 
>> server is not set up to recognize that various file-name extensions 
>> correspond to specific MIME types and so a default is being used.  
>> application/octet-stream is the safest default.
>> 
>> There's a secondary problem with regard to being able to *open* LibreOffice 
>> documents that are downloaded by a browser.  That has to do with associating 
>> the MIME type with an application on the receiving computer.  But first, you 
>> need the correct MIME type from the server.
>> 
>> The only way around, depending on how the file is downloaded, is to store it 
>> without opening it and then renaming it so it can be opened properly.  Not 
>> something your average user will deal with (especially if they don't have 
>> file exensions being show in Windows Explorer).
>> 
>> Most web servers have a way to be told what MIME type to attribute to 
>> particular filename extensions.  Someone needs to arrange with an 
>> administrator of the web site to set that up.
>> 
>> - Dennis
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: planas [mailto:[email protected]] 
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 15:11
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and Microsoft Office files - 
>> MIME type problem
>> 
>> Ian,
>> 
>> On Tue, 2011-06-28 at 10:01 -0400, Ian Long wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I have looked for a solution to an issue I am seeing, but without any luck 
>>> - hopefully someone has seen this before and can provide a workaround.
>>> 
>>> A client  is using LibreOffice on Windows XP PCs, running IE8.  They use LO 
>>> to save in the Microsoft formats (.doc, .xls, etc) which is working fine.
>>> 
>>> However, when they try to upload one of those files to web servers, the 
>>> MIME type of those files is always reported as 'application/octect-stream', 
>>> rather than
>>> the real mime type - IE can't figure out the type as it would if Office was 
>>> installed.
>>> 
>>> This also affects files that weren't created by LO, such as ones that were 
>>> sent via email, that were created in Microsoft Office.
>>> 
>>> Is there a way to register some type of LO handler with Windows so that the 
>>> file types are properly recognized?
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>> Ian
>>> 
>> 
>> If the MSO document is uploaded directly to the server without being
>> opened in LO does your client have the same problem? I just want to
>> clarify if it is a problem with LO or possibly somewhere else. 
>> 
>> Do other browsers report the same problem when used or access the page?
>> 
>> Also, what version of LO are they using?
>> 
>> -- 
>> Jay Lozier
>> [email protected]
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