Hi :) MS could have good reason to make sure that Odt doesn't work properly in their products. It would force people to use MS formats and they might hope that would mean forcing people to buy their latest product, MS Office 2010, before the new release gets out. MS are a profit making company and profit is their number 1 objective. Their number 1 objective is not to help everyone communicate with each other easily! If you view things from that point of view a lot of weird things they do make sense.
The Odt is not much smaller than the Doc in this specific case but in general it might be. The dragging thing was worth repeating just in case my systems handled it different but in both Ubuntu using LibreOffice 3.3.2 and Windows using LibreOffice 3.3.3 i got the same results and using the older 1.0/1.1 versions of the Odt format didn't make any difference. Which was something i have been wondering for a while so it was good to be able to test it :) Regards from Tom :) ________________________________ From: soumalya ray <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wed, 20 July, 2011 16:08:06 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] formatting problem with table in libreoffice writer forgot to say that i have done the dragging part already. so,docx is working properly in MS office but not in LO,that's weird.but i am more worried about the "odt not working" part.why will it be so???????? will post a bug report. odt is not that small compared to doc but docx is almost 1/3 rd of doc!! anyway,thanks for the help On 20 July 2011 20:14, Tom Davies <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi :) > Sorry it has taken me so long to reply. I can confirm the behaviour so > it's > worth posting a bug-report about it. There might already be a bug-report > but > because it's a proprietary format it might be difficult to get fixed so > don't > expect swift results! > > > Weirdly i opened the DocX in MS Office 2007 and found that it looked fine, > just > like the Doc format. The Odt format wouldn't open even after i re-saved it > as > version 1.0/1.1. So, your DocX looks fine in MS Office 2007 but just > looks > weird in LibreOffice. > > > The DocX opened fine in LibreOffice 3.3.2 but had the same problem with the > table stretching off the page. I switched to > > View - Webpage and dragged the table back within the normal page view and > saved > the page again but suffered the same problem. > > DocX just wont work with this table in LibreOffice and i don't know why. > DocX > does often have troubles of this sort so it's best to stick with Doc. DocX > 'should' be smaller (as 'should' Odt) because they are compressed files. > You > can even read them with an archive manager such as WinRar or WinZip > although the > results show a folder containing the different parts of the file = it's > very > weird but worth trying as it can be a really cool way of recovering parts > of a > document that seems hopelessly corrupted and unrecoverable. > > > Regards from > Tom :) > > > > > ________________________________ > From: soumalya ray <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Wed, 20 July, 2011 12:41:59 > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] formatting problem with table in > libreoffice > writer > > i will definitely send the attachments to you.i have not checked the files > yet with MS office.i am wondering because-created the documents in > libreoffice,saved them and reopened them & this changed the document > totally!!!!!!!!!!!!!libreoffice itself could not open the document it > created properly!!!!! > anyway i will send you the documents.have a look.i will try to use odt as > much as possible and thanks for the direction for playing with the > settings. > > On 20 July 2011 14:00, Tom Davies <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hi :) > > Attachments get removed before the email gets to the list. Can you > upload > > the > > files somewhere and then give us a link? Alternatively you could use my > > private > > email address (use copy&paste rather than just "Reply to") to send the > > attachments to although i only have a limited idea of what might have > > happened. > > > > > > The Doc format is much better than the DocX for sharing with other > people. > > Even > > DocX files made in MS Office 2007 tend to go a bit wrong when viewed with > > MS > > Office 2010 and similarly the other way around. Of course any MS Office > > before > > their 2007 can't read DocX at all. > > > > > > MS Office 2007 was the first MS Office to be able to read OdT format but > > they > > use the old spec despite the newer spec being easier to find out about > and > > implement. The DocX spec is very secretive and even MS don't implement > it > > properly. So, it's better to use the older Doc format so that almost > > anyone can > > open the document. > > > > > > To increase compatibility with MS Office go up to the "Tools" menu and > then > > right down to "Options" at the bottom. The pop-up contains many useful > > settings > > and is well worth having a look at but for now just click on the + beside > > "Load/Save, then click on "General". Somewhere in the middle is "ODF > > Format > > Version". Change the drop-down beside that from "1.2 Extended > > (recommended)" to > > "1.0/1.1". Files saved in that format should be easily opened in MS > Office > > just > > by double-clicking on them. If you look just under there you can change > > the > > "Text Document" format to "Microsoft Word (98/2000/Xp)". Similarly for > > Spreadsheets and presentations although for those 2 you need to scroll > back > > up > > the list 2 places instead of just 1 otherwise documents get saved as > > templates > > which gets really messy. > > > > Good luck and regards from > > Tom :) > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: soumalya ray <[email protected]> > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Wed, 20 July, 2011 8:44:05 > > Subject: [libreoffice-users] formatting problem with table in libreoffice > > writer > > > > hi, > > just started using libreoffice in ubuntu lucid,version is 3.3.2. > > i tried to insert a table & wrote something in it.saved it as .docx and > > closed libreoffice.then again opened the document using libreoffice > > itself.the last column of the table is going outside the page > boundary.this > > made the last column invisible for all practical purposes. > > i would like to know the mistake i am doing and how to solve it. > > i am attaching 3 files here-- > > .odt-what i have written > > .doc-what i am expecting > > .docx-what i am getting > > please help me and thanks in advance > > > > -- > > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to [email protected] > > In case of problems unsubscribing, write to > > [email protected] > > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > > deleted > > > > -- > > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to [email protected] > > In case of problems unsubscribing, write to > > [email protected] > > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > > deleted > > > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to [email protected] > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to [email protected] > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > -- Dr soumalya ray <http://drsoumalya.blogspot.com> <[email protected]> MBBS,MD(PGT)C.Medicine,Ex-HousePhysician(Medicine) Skype: som3776 | Twitter: @docbkp <http://twitter.com/docbkp> -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to [email protected] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to [email protected] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
