of course;you are right On 20 July 2011 20:49, Tom Davies <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi :) > MS could have good reason to make sure that Odt doesn't work properly in > their > products. It would force people to use MS formats and they might hope that > would mean forcing people to buy their latest product, MS Office 2010, > before > the new release gets out. MS are a profit making company and profit is > their > number 1 objective. Their number 1 objective is not to help everyone > communicate with each other easily! If you view things from that point of > view > a lot of weird things they do make sense. > > > The Odt is not much smaller than the Doc in this specific case but in > general it > might be. The dragging thing was worth repeating just in case my systems > handled it different but in both Ubuntu using LibreOffice 3.3.2 and Windows > using LibreOffice 3.3.3 i got the same results and using the older 1.0/1.1 > versions of the Odt format didn't make any difference. Which was something > i > have been wondering for a while so it was good to be able to test it :) > > Regards from > Tom :) > > > > ________________________________ > From: soumalya ray <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Wed, 20 July, 2011 16:08:06 > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] formatting problem with table in > libreoffice > writer > > forgot to say that i have done the dragging part already. > so,docx is working properly in MS office but not in LO,that's weird.but i > am > more worried about the "odt not working" part.why will it be so???????? > will post a bug report. > odt is not that small compared to doc but docx is almost 1/3 rd of doc!! > anyway,thanks for the help > On 20 July 2011 20:14, Tom Davies <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hi :) > > Sorry it has taken me so long to reply. I can confirm the behaviour so > > it's > > worth posting a bug-report about it. There might already be a bug-report > > but > > because it's a proprietary format it might be difficult to get fixed so > > don't > > expect swift results! > > > > > > Weirdly i opened the DocX in MS Office 2007 and found that it looked > fine, > > just > > like the Doc format. The Odt format wouldn't open even after i re-saved > it > > as > > version 1.0/1.1. So, your DocX looks fine in MS Office 2007 but just > > looks > > weird in LibreOffice. > > > > > > The DocX opened fine in LibreOffice 3.3.2 but had the same problem with > the > > table stretching off the page. I switched to > > > > View - Webpage and dragged the table back within the normal page view and > > saved > > the page again but suffered the same problem. > > > > DocX just wont work with this table in LibreOffice and i don't know why. > > DocX > > does often have troubles of this sort so it's best to stick with Doc. > DocX > > 'should' be smaller (as 'should' Odt) because they are compressed files. > > You > > can even read them with an archive manager such as WinRar or WinZip > > although the > > results show a folder containing the different parts of the file = it's > > very > > weird but worth trying as it can be a really cool way of recovering parts > > of a > > document that seems hopelessly corrupted and unrecoverable. > > > > > > Regards from > > Tom :) > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: soumalya ray <[email protected]> > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Wed, 20 July, 2011 12:41:59 > > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] formatting problem with table in > > libreoffice > > writer > > > > i will definitely send the attachments to you.i have not checked the > files > > yet with MS office.i am wondering because-created the documents in > > libreoffice,saved them and reopened them & this changed the document > > totally!!!!!!!!!!!!!libreoffice itself could not open the document it > > created properly!!!!! > > anyway i will send you the documents.have a look.i will try to use odt as > > much as possible and thanks for the direction for playing with the > > settings. > > > > On 20 July 2011 14:00, Tom Davies <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Hi :) > > > Attachments get removed before the email gets to the list. Can you > > upload > > > the > > > files somewhere and then give us a link? Alternatively you could use > my > > > private > > > email address (use copy&paste rather than just "Reply to") to send the > > > attachments to although i only have a limited idea of what might have > > > happened. > > > > > > > > > The Doc format is much better than the DocX for sharing with other > > people. > > > Even > > > DocX files made in MS Office 2007 tend to go a bit wrong when viewed > with > > > MS > > > Office 2010 and similarly the other way around. Of course any MS > Office > > > before > > > their 2007 can't read DocX at all. > > > > > > > > > MS Office 2007 was the first MS Office to be able to read OdT format > but > > > they > > > use the old spec despite the newer spec being easier to find out about > > and > > > implement. The DocX spec is very secretive and even MS don't implement > > it > > > properly. So, it's better to use the older Doc format so that almost > > > anyone can > > > open the document. > > > > > > > > > To increase compatibility with MS Office go up to the "Tools" menu and > > then > > > right down to "Options" at the bottom. The pop-up contains many useful > > > settings > > > and is well worth having a look at but for now just click on the + > beside > > > "Load/Save, then click on "General". Somewhere in the middle is "ODF > > > Format > > > Version". Change the drop-down beside that from "1.2 Extended > > > (recommended)" to > > > "1.0/1.1". Files saved in that format should be easily opened in MS > > Office > > > just > > > by double-clicking on them. If you look just under there you can > change > > > the > > > "Text Document" format to "Microsoft Word (98/2000/Xp)". Similarly for > > > Spreadsheets and presentations although for those 2 you need to scroll > > back > > > up > > > the list 2 places instead of just 1 otherwise documents get saved as > > > templates > > > which gets really messy. > > > > > > Good luck and regards from > > > Tom :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: soumalya ray <[email protected]> > > > To: [email protected] > > > Sent: Wed, 20 July, 2011 8:44:05 > > > Subject: [libreoffice-users] formatting problem with table in > libreoffice > > > writer > > > > > > hi, > > > just started using libreoffice in ubuntu lucid,version is 3.3.2. > > > i tried to insert a table & wrote something in it.saved it as .docx and > > > closed libreoffice.then again opened the document using libreoffice > > > itself.the last column of the table is going outside the page > > boundary.this > > > made the last column invisible for all practical purposes. > > > i would like to know the mistake i am doing and how to solve it. > > > i am attaching 3 files here-- > > > .odt-what i have written > > > .doc-what i am expecting > > > .docx-what i am getting > > > please help me and thanks in advance > > > > > > -- > > > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to [email protected] > > > In case of problems unsubscribing, write to > > > [email protected] > > > Posting guidelines + more: > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > > > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > > > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > > > deleted > > > > > > -- > > > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to [email protected] > > > In case of problems unsubscribing, write to > > > [email protected] > > > Posting guidelines + more: > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > > > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > > > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > > > deleted > > > > > > > -- > > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to [email protected] > > Problems? > > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > > deleted > > > > -- > > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to [email protected] > > Problems? > > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > > deleted > > > > > > -- > Dr soumalya ray <http://drsoumalya.blogspot.com> <[email protected]> > MBBS,MD(PGT)C.Medicine,Ex-HousePhysician(Medicine) > Skype: som3776 | Twitter: @docbkp <http://twitter.com/docbkp> > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to [email protected] > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to [email protected] > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > -- Dr soumalya ray <http://drsoumalya.blogspot.com> <[email protected]> MBBS,MD(PGT)C.Medicine,Ex-HousePhysician(Medicine) Skype: som3776 | Twitter: @docbkp <http://twitter.com/docbkp> -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to [email protected] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
