Hi :)
A big
+1
Regards from
Tom :)

--- On Wed, 1/2/12, Pertti Rönnberg <[email protected]> wrote:

From: Pertti Rönnberg <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: How get LibreO-Base working?
To: [email protected]
Cc: "Alex Thurgood" <[email protected]>
Date: Wednesday, 1 February, 2012, 18:36

All of you.
Thanks very much for your kindness to bother answering - and for the very 
interesting discussions.

My conclusion is that LO-Base (and OO-Base ?) is not yet - and perhaps will not 
be as mentioned in the desciption at LO-Wikipedia: "A database management 
program <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Database_management_program>, similar to 
Microsoft Access ..  etc" <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Access>.
Its really pity because I think the usability of databases is underrated; quite 
ordinary people should have plenty of use of databases in their every day life 
if there only were free, easy installed, easy customized templates and some 
efforts on marketing. I just got a fancy idea that LO-/OO-Base could be that 
user-friendly solution.
Anyway, I still feel it worth trying to see if there should be a way to get my 
32bit LO-Base working!

I agree. I am a 72 years "oldtimer" with a pure interest to keep up. When in 
office until about 10 years ago I worked quite a lot with MSAccess and VBA & 
macros and got somewhat familiar with SQL too. MSAccess alone was enough for 
quite complicated projects with informative forms/reports and analyses.
So now it is not the MySQL/SQLite, it is the PHP-language and getting the 
MySQL/PHP/Apache combination working that I feel uncomfortable - I also have 
tried WASP.
Again - thanks and all the best!
Pertti Rönnberg


On 1.2.2012 9:43, Alex Thurgood wrote:
> Le 31/01/2012 22:07, Andreas Säger a écrit :
> 
> Hi Andreas,
> 
>> Am 31.01.2012 20:16, Alexander Thurgood wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes, the dependency on Java JRE/JDK is a pain in the backside, but
>>> unfortunately unavoidable if you want to use Base, at least for the time
>>> being.
>>> 
>> 
>> With no Java being installed, I can connect a Base document to any
>> non-Java database, write queries, draw input forms and use Calc as
>> reporting engine.
>> 
>> 
> 
> And I would state that that is an "unusual" user setup. The user here wants a 
> relational database with subforms and reports and does not want to use mysql, 
> so where does that leave him her with regard to Base - IMO, with HSQLDB, the 
> stock db engine provided with LO. For that, you need a JRE/JDK.
> 
> And Calc for reports is OK, much as is Writer, but for anything a bit more 
> than a simple report, the user will have to deal with not only the 
> idiosyncrasies of the respective tool used for creating the report, plus, in 
> general, learn to use macros. The whole benefit of having a specific 
> reporting tool (the Java based ORB extension) is that this is suppose to ease 
> that pain.
> 
> Personally, I'd love to be able to say, you get a great and easy to use db 
> reporting engine without Java in LO, but that is simply not the case at the 
> moment.
> 
> 
> Alex
> 
> 


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