Hi Dan :) OpenJDK is also owned by Oracle but that might be mitigated by having a community involved. I'm not sure if normal java has a community too. Ubuntu 10.04LTS has java 6_20 by default at the moment. Perhaps you also have one of the good (at least for LO) versions such as 6_21 or 6_22.
The creator of the course you gave a link to just emailed me moments before you posted and said that is a back-up and the better site is http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9113961/virtualclassroom/chap8/libreoffice_base.html It looks a lot nicer! Same content i guess but looks can count for a lot sometimes Regards from Tom :) --- On Wed, 1/2/12, Dan Lewis <[email protected]> wrote: From: Dan Lewis <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: How get LibreO-Base working? To: [email protected] Date: Wednesday, 1 February, 2012, 20:06 On Wed, 2012-02-01 at 08:43 +0100, Alex Thurgood wrote: > Le 31/01/2012 22:07, Andreas Säger a écrit : > > Hi Andreas, > > > Am 31.01.2012 20:16, Alexander Thurgood wrote: > >> > >> Yes, the dependency on Java JRE/JDK is a pain in the backside, but > >> unfortunately unavoidable if you want to use Base, at least for the time > >> being. > >> > > > > With no Java being installed, I can connect a Base document to any > > non-Java database, write queries, draw input forms and use Calc as > > reporting engine. > > > > > > And I would state that that is an "unusual" user setup. The user here > wants a relational database with subforms and reports and does not want > to use mysql, so where does that leave him her with regard to Base - > IMO, with HSQLDB, the stock db engine provided with LO. For that, you > need a JRE/JDK. > > And Calc for reports is OK, much as is Writer, but for anything a bit > more than a simple report, the user will have to deal with not only the > idiosyncrasies of the respective tool used for creating the report, > plus, in general, learn to use macros. The whole benefit of having a > specific reporting tool (the Java based ORB extension) is that this is > suppose to ease that pain. > > Personally, I'd love to be able to say, you get a great and easy to use > db reporting engine without Java in LO, but that is simply not the case > at the moment. > > > Alex Is this a "Windows" problem? I'm not having any problems using Base with the Ubuntu O/S. My java is openjdk-6-jre. This java is supplied by from Ubuntu's repositories. I don't know, but I suspect that this java version can also be used for other Linux distributions. This java's description: Full Java runtime environment - needed for executing Java GUI and Webstart programs. Using Hotspot JIT. The packages are built using the IcedTea build support and patches from the IcedTea project. (Maybe someone else understands this jargon.) I wonder about some of the comments that have been made in this thread. What I do know is that OOo 3.3 (or perhaps earlier) contained a method to disable the Base Wizard. The word at the time was that there were large companies wanting to control who in their company could create .odb files (database document files) at work. These companies were told what configuration file had to be changed from what to what. I realize that the security holes found in java has been a problem. I seem to have seen somewhere that the java based upon the IcedTea project does not have these holes. I use Base for embedded databases that are flat, relational, one that is a combination of flat and relational I have one .odb file that links to a spreadsheet. They all work. "Base Tutorial: From Newbie to Advocate in a one, two... three!" by Mariano Casanova written for OOo (publication date: August 2010. This is a fairly sophisticated application created using Base. Here is a link that is a Base Tutorial which is a online course for Base. The estimated time required to go through this tutorial is more than 60 hours. http://www.fhi.rcsed.ac.uk/rbeaumont/virtualclassroom/chap8/libreoffice_base.html In other words, I think there is more to Base than I seem to be reading in this and other threads. --Dan -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: [email protected] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: [email protected] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
