Hi :) 
I did not change them but i applaud whoever did.  

The main argument that the bottom-poster-fanatics use in order to demand that 
everyone else is only allowed to bottom post is that the guidelines suggest 
doing so.  That is clearly not working so the guidelines needed to be changed 
to support what the target-market of this list are more comfortable with.  

In my opinion people should be allowed to post as they want without being 
subjected to the bullying of the bottom-posters.  That view seems to be 
supported by everyone that top-posts that has commented in this thread.  

Can we not accept that the main purpose of this thread is to answer people's 
questions and make them feel comfortable about asking questions?  Clearly not.  
It seems the main aim of this list, according to the bottom-posters, is 
1.  to keep subjecting us all to this pointless argument, 
2.  to bully anyone that doesn't obey them
3.  to make people uncomfortable about asking questions for fear of 
intimidation.  

If the guidelines now say that only top posting is acceptable then that is 
great because none of the top-posters are going to use those guidelines to 
bully people.  None of the top-posters are going to claim that the guidelines 
are rules and not really guidelines at all.  

Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Fri, 24/2/12, Brian Barker <[email protected]> wrote:

From: Brian Barker <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Top posting
To: [email protected]
Date: Friday, 24 February, 2012, 8:42

At 06:40 23/02/2012 -0900, Marc Grober wrote:
> Notice that I am top posting as suggested by the guidelines ...

I don't get involved in these disputes, mainly because they are characterised 
by intransigence and _ad hominem_ arguments - and I won't do so now.  But you 
simply cannot expect to argue based on a falsehood!  When you wrote this, the 
guidelines (at http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette ) did not suggest 
top posting, but rather anything but:

> ... please do interspersion with trimming [...]. For a simple reply, this is 
> equivalent to bottom-posting. So, remove extraneous material, and place your 
> comments in logical order, after the text you are commenting upon.

But since then someone has changed this to remove any sort of guidance at all.  
Perhaps you made the change?!  Or perhaps the original culprit did?  It's a fun 
system - isn't it? - when those who are directed to guidelines and find they 
don't like them simply change them!

Brian Barker


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