Hi :)
Normally i wouldn't lump them together but you started it! lol.  They are both 
in the same family so there are often similarities but as you point out they 
aim at different markets.  

Good luck with sorting the issue.  I'm curious if just getting the latest java 
would fix it.  
Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Mon, 9/4/12, Jonathan Schultz <[email protected]> wrote:

From: Jonathan Schultz <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Some documents make libreoffice-writer crash
To: [email protected]
Date: Monday, 9 April, 2012, 0:01

> Noob-friendly "gateway" distros such as Ubuntu/Debian family are
> great for starting out with Gnu&Linux but once you get into tweaking
> things yourself you might enjoy giving Arch or Slackware a try.

I know we all have our preferences for distros but I'm curious why you put 
Ubuntu and Debian in the same basket. Apart from the fact that Ubuntu is built 
on Debian they seem to be quite different and aimed at quite different users.

I recommend Ubuntu to friends and family who don't have the patience, 
motivation or experience to set things up manually. I use Debian and tweak it 
extensively. I like the fact that it's almost identical on i386 and arm 
architectures, the quality control is very high, and knowing it well helps me 
when I am called upon to fix broken Ubuntu installations.  I guess the 
attention to quality control and integration is why the Debian distro managers 
tend to tweak the upstream packages. Occasionally I download a package from an 
upstream distributor (like now!) but it rarely gives me much satisfaction.

Anyway about to investigate further what's breaking libreoffice for me.

Cheers,
Jonathan

> There are a lot of distros in between the 2 extremes.  Slackware
> usually tries to do the least amount of tweaking for most packages
> but apparently Arch has better documentation to help set the whole
> thing up.  If i went this route i would dual-boot with Ubuntu/Debian
> for a while by installing Arch or Slackware on a new partition.  I
> don't think i would go this route at all tho.  I prefer sticking with
> Ubuntu as articles appear in fairly mainstream media about it and i
> bump into people that are using it.
>
> Regards from Tom :)
>
>
> --- On Sun, 8/4/12, Jonathan Schultz<[email protected]>  wrote:
>
> From: Jonathan Schultz<[email protected]> Subject: Re:
> [libreoffice-users] Some documents make libreoffice-writer crash To:
> [email protected] Date: Sunday, 8 April, 2012, 5:26
>
>> Presumably you copied the old User Profile to the new place to get
>> your previous settings and Extensions back?
>
> Yes, did that and it worked fine. I also do some strange things like
> replace the dictionary files with symbolic links into my working
> directories so that they get shared and synchronised between my
> different devices.
>
>> You can always try the repo version another time and then perhaps
>> do a parallel install after that maybe.
>
> Since I noticed that the debian testing repository is allegedly the
> same version as TDF's (3.4.6-602) I tried using it but the problem
> came back. So I'll stick with TDF's version for now and wait for a
> new release.
>
> Cheers, Jonathan
>
> Regards
>> from Tom :)
>>
>>
>> --- On Sun, 8/4/12, Jonathan Schultz<[email protected]>   wrote:
>>
>> From: Jonathan Schultz<[email protected]>  Subject: Re:
>> [libreoffice-users] Some documents make libreoffice-writer crash
>> To: [email protected] Date: Sunday, 8 April, 2012, 1:11
>>
>>> You might have already tried this but it looks like you didn't
>>> mention it.  Can you download the TDF's official version instead
>>> of using one from the repos?
>>> http://www.libreoffice.org/download/?type=deb-x86〈=en-GB
>>
>> I have tried it now, and it works! Thank you very much. It messed
>> with my desktop integration a little and put the configuration
>> files in a different place, but when I'd worked that out it all
>> looked good.
>>
>> I didn't bother with the parallel installation though, actually
>> didn't notice that you'd shown me that link until it was too late.
>> I guess I can go back to the debian distro when they get 3.4.6?
>>
>>> Annoyingly the main downloads page tries to give me the .Rpm
>>> instead of the .Deb but also it lets you choose the more stable
>>> 3.4.6 instead of the 3.5.2.
>>
>> It worked for me, ie offered me the .deb installation.
>>
>> Cheers, Jonathan
>>
>>
>
>

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