Hi again :)
Unless, of course, those documents were created with 3rd party apps such as 
LibreOffice.  All the ones created using MS Office use a quirky implementation 
of the format and the quirks are different for each version of MS Office.  

I wonder if the newer version of MSO will move to yet another format or are 
they going to save such a move for the MSO after that.  
Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Fri, 11/5/12, Tom Davies <[email protected]> wrote:

From: Tom Davies <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: HOWTO change all-user default file formats 
(Windows), for LOo3.5?
To: [email protected]
Date: Friday, 11 May, 2012, 20:26

Hi :)
Both Doc and Rtf rely on a single company to maintain them.  That company is 
trying to force people to use the newer formats.  How long do you think they 
will continue to support their older formats?  

Staying with Doc and Rtf is only a short-term solution.  In a few years we will 
see people having trouble with documents that are still in that format.  Of 
course the users will be blamed for not having bought and updated their 
documents.  

Regards from
Tom :)



--- On Fri, 11/5/12, Jay Lozier <[email protected]> wrote:

From: Jay Lozier <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: HOWTO change all-user default file formats 
(Windows), for
 LOo3.5?
To: [email protected]
Date: Friday, 11 May, 2012, 19:45

Andreas,

On 05/11/2012 02:04 PM, Andreas Säger wrote:
> Am 11.05.2012 19:59, Doug wrote:
>>> 
>> I know this is not a popular opinion with certain folks, but I believe
>> you should save ALL documents in either .doc or .rtf format. Why keep
>> files in a
>> format most people can't read? Just because Microsoft invented it is no
>> reason not to use it. You use their fonts, don't you?
>> 
>> --doug
>> 
>> 
> 
> Believe what you want. It is a technical issue.
> 
> 
The ideal answer is for everyone to agree on and support standard, 
non-proprietary formats for all document types and not use proprietary formats. 
Unfortunately, in the US at least, this is not true with office documents - MSO 
formats are defacto
 standard for US businesses and most government agencies. So we must to use a 
variety of methods to adapt to the situation. I prefer to use ODF formats as my 
normal format for all office documents and convert to an MSO format when needed.

The problem is that there are users with a wide variety of skill levels and 
willingness to learn and this creates its own problems. I know people who in 
practical terms computer illiterate even though they use computers regularly. 
Depending on the situation one may need to use a sub-optimal solution to get 
work done while trying to implement the technically correct solution.

I understand the legitimate technical issues that you are raising but 
unfortunately the problem is with the ultimate end user. The real solution is  
social not technical of training and education. My observation is there are 
significant number of users who will resist doing the technically correct 
procedure because they believe it
 is extremely difficult even when it very simple. I know people will not learn 
to use Powerpoint or Impress to make a slide show or presentation; I actually 
have prepared presentations for them. And I am not very proficient with either 
Powerpoint or Impress because I rarely use it for my own projects or work (more 
accurately almost never use it for work or personal projects).

-- Jay Lozier
[email protected]


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