There was no "betrayal".
There are people who do not seem to believe others can be correct about things. How you can spell the same exact word in a language is regional.
The "language" region can be as large as a country, but can be a small as a few blocks in a city.
Actually, as for the included English spelling dictionary for LO, there are a lot of English regions available according to the default spell checking system with no additions.
I have listed in the default language for the text - English (USA), but the following are all listed as my default language options [for English] without any other English dictionary enabled except for the included "locked" one:
Australia, Belize, Canada, Eire, Ghana, India, Jamaica, Namibia, New Zealand, Philippines, South Africa, Trinidad, UK, USA, Zimbabwe.
SO, if people tell me a word has to be spelled in one way, then what about all of the other regions? Do they no longer count?
There are a lot of words that are weird to me. It all depends on the root of that word, so I am told. If you start from two slightly different forms a the word and add prefixes and suffixes, then they can not make sense to you. It does not mean that the word is not correctly spelled for that region. There are times where there are many correct spellings of the same sounding and meaning word. That is the nature of a complex language like "English".
On 06/23/2012 04:22 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
Hi :) Hey Tim i am really sorry if anything i said sounded like a betrayal. I do very much appreciate your works but i also appreciate that some people may be oddly picky about things in one direction or another. As you point out those people can try to find alternatives. I remember saying so to someone in a way that you may easily have seen as a betrayal. From what i have seen on these lists your dictionaries solve a lot of problems and are far more accurate than any others that people mention. I thought your plan was to keep your specialist dictionaries separate so that people could mix&match different ones or just stick to the standard one. I hadn't realised people could have more than one and it made me think it would be great to start creating a custom dictionary at my workplace in order to keep all the company names (and such) separate from the proper dictionaries. I am fairly sure that a few people have asked us why on earth we don't have your dictionaries as the default ones to replace the ones that seem to generate problems. So, clearly there are a lot of people out there quietly enjoying using your works. Regards from Tom :) --- On Sat, 23/6/12, webmaster-Kracked_P_P <[email protected]> wrote: From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P <[email protected]> Subject: [libreoffice-users] "English" dictionary extension To: "LibreO - Users Global" <[email protected]> Date: Saturday, 23 June, 2012, 19:53 With all the "issues" about my version of a British word list dictionary, I decided to get out of my sick bed and do something that would make the same people more angry at me. If you do not want to use my spelling word dictionaries, you do not need to. Use someone else's. I just thought I could help LO in my own little way. If all people who want to help is made to feel like I have over my work on my versions of a spelling extension, then I would wonder why people would want to help make LO better. So, for those who do not like my work, do not use it. NOW - what I did. . . . ----------------------------------------------------------- http://libreoffice-na.us/English-3.5-installs/add-on-dictionaries-large-list/kpp-english-dictionary-790k-word-list.oxt ----------------------------------------------------------- I took all three 638K word lists - American, British, and Canadian - and compared them. As far as I could tell, there were less than 100 words that were not in at least two out of the three lists. I could be wrong, but that is what I came up with. Then I added lists of medical and chemical words to the large word list to make it a total of 790,673 words. I planned to add the medical and chemical words at a later date, but I did so now instead. I still have more words to add, but I will have to wait to rebuild that list of new words [since I deleted my work when I was sick last year and was switching drives for storage of these working files]. I will not tell you where I got these words from, but as far as I will tell you ALL of the words came from "GNU - General Public License" sources or equivalent. If you choose to search for word lists you will find the ones I have found and merged to create the "master" word lists I use for the creation three versions of the English Language spelling dictionaries. Everything I did can be done by anyone who would want to do so. -------------- AS for spellings that are not matching everyone's preferred spelling, that is easy . . . . Languages Evolve and even in the same country people can spell a word differently and still be correct. If you go to http://extensions.libreoffice.org/extension-center/spanish-dictionaries and look, you will find Spanish dictionaries for various regions. You want to argue with them that they are not spelling their words correctly? No, the spellings of words evolve and can be used in each variation. Do I tell people that "colour" or "menue" are not the correct spellings of these words, since they are not the spellings I use? They should be "color" and "menu" according to my email client, BUT both ways are spelled correctly if you look at resource that does not say this is the preferred spelling so any other correct spellings are not to be used anymore. The people in my building who saw "menue" spelled this way could not tell me that is was not correct, when it is not the "most preferred" spelling method. Look at the French. As far as I was told, they have revised their spellings of some words and now teach this new spelling method in their schools. But, the old ways are still going to be out there in books and other printed documents. Look at what Oxford English is vs. British English. "They" are changing the way you spell many common words [my opinion for common words and spelling] but if the public do not want to use the newest version of the words, then who will force them? If the public think it is not a good idea to use the newest ways to spell the words, then is the public wrong or the people who thought up the new ways of spelling of the words? Look into the past of the "English" language. It has not been around for 2000 years, 1000 years, or even 500. The "English" language grew out of communities coming in contact with each other and sharing their words. These groups of larger communities share with others and slowly a new language grows out of the older ones. ALSO smaller communities form and over time the words they use, and their spelling of those words, will change. As far as my English professors understands, this will always happen. Language Evolves. How many "English" words actually came from words in the French and German regions of Europe? Language shares words and the use can become part of their "communal" language. You can tell me I am wrong, and I can say that you are. We are both neither right or wrong. The lady who was born and raised 200 miles south of me who spells "menue/menu" her way is not wrong, but she grew up in a different sub-community in the USA than I did. There were more of one ethnic group that moved into her region of the country than did in mine. My father was raised on a different region than my mother. We all were taught how to speak in areas of different ethnic diversity. Our words we used were different for some common things, AND so was some of the ways that those words were spelled. The language evolved in these communities and as each community member moved to other communities, the words [and spelling] spread to other communities, through their use and their children's use. <http://libreoffice-na.us/English-3.5-installs/add-on-dictionaries-large-list/kpp-english-dictionary-790k-word-list.oxt>Language evolves. NO one sub-group can force another to use the new ways. If they are not used by enough people, then those new ways are given up. The same goes with spelling of the words you use. Over the past 200 many ways of spelling words have changed and were used by enough people that those ways became preferred over the older ways, but those older ways are rarely, if ever, removed from the written language. 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