omega
The
Omega sector
America's Last
Line of
Defense
*Virtual box is found by typing in Virtual Box into search engine and
click on the one which says Download it is by Oracle and get the right
one for the O/S you have . . . I have run all kinds of stuff from inside
of virtual Box even a USB thing from sprint for getting on the internet
plug it in and run and that was from Linux and let windows use the
conection Linux makes running windows seem hard
I use Ubuntu 11.04 . . I started with10.10 VERY STABLE version and then
upgraded to 11.04 I am not going beyond this version as they have the
floating Icons and it take 2 more clicks to get a program open than with
Gnome Classic Desktop
Until they fix the next versions to have a Gnome Desktop I am not going
to even recommend them any more . . Mint and Fallback are piss poor
fixes for a Gnome Classic desktop . .
*
On 07/24/2012 11:27 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
Hi :)
I meant to say earlier that often (although probably not in this case) there is
usually something somewhere in Gnu&Linux-land that does do exactly what. The
problem most people have is finding it and it's forum or mailing-list.
Regards from
Tom :)
--- On Tue, 24/7/12, Lynne Stevens <[email protected]> wrote:
From: Lynne Stevens <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Migrating from Windows; take it slow
To: [email protected]
Date: Tuesday, 24 July, 2012, 18:26
omega
The
Omega sector
America's Last
Line of
Defense
*So install virtual box in LINUX and add the guest additions then add the
extended pack and you can run or use any thing from inside windows I use it to
run all kinds of junk not YET in Linux like the drives for ADS Instant video
transfer from the TV to the computer and use Pinnacle Studios to make movies
with Linux see's the item and windows runs it . .
*
*
*
On 07/24/2012 05:58 AM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:
The real problem for many people is the hardware and software needs.
I still have some USB hardware that does not work on Linux. No working drivers.
Then there is the problem of having to use certain software, for work or
pleasure, that you either cannot find a good Linux alternative or you MUST use.
There is the option of WINE, but some software seems not to want to work under
that. Personally, I have never gotten WINE to work for me, but that is just me.
I made a personal choice and used Ubuntu when I bought my last "default"
desktop. I had to adjust to some of the software though. I still have the Windows
laptops [single or dual boot] to deal with the need Windows software. My Epson printer
prints on DVD media, but I have not found any replacement for its Windows software to do
that work. There is a graphic program that I bought for Windows that works much easier
that GIMP, so if I have trouble with an image/graphics, I need to work on it with that
Windows software. BUT, most most of the work I do, Ubuntu and the free software for it
works for me.
So, even though I use Ubuntu as my default system, I still need to keep Windows
around for those things that I cannot find drivers and software version for in
Linux.
Even version of Linux differ.
The scanning part of my Epson printer does not work at all with Ubuntu 10.04,
but will work on 12.04. I updated the software and drivers I use for it on my
10.04 system, but still not luck. Something in 12.04 makes it work that I seem
not to be able to get with 10.04.
On 07/24/2012 08:37 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
Hi :)
Virtualisation is good but if it's a question of drivers for a particular piece
of hardware then it might not work. It might, but it if the underlaying OS
can't see it then i don't see how the virtual machine that is sitting on top of
that OS is supposed to see it.
It is possible to use emulators or even better is WINE (stands for "Wine Is Not an
Emulator") but that is a lot more sophisticated and hence slightly harder to set-up
initially for some programs.
The worst way around is to have a Gnu&Linux in a virtual machine on Windows because
then the stability of the unix-based systems is sitting on top of the flakiness of
Windows so you end-up adding the worst of each OS. A dual-boot means each is directly
on bare metal so it gives a fair comparison. Windows inside a virtual machine inside
Gnu&Linux sounds like it's going to be ver stable too.
Ubuntu and Puppy and possibly a few others have a magic way of installing inside Windows. It
avoids 1 of the layers between bare-metal and the OS because it avoids the virtual machine bit.
The Ubuntu magic way is called the "Wubi". Again you are adding the worst of each OS and
in addition the "drives" are really compressed files but it's fast and easy to install
and many people keep using such things for years with no problems. Obviously it's not made by
Microsoft and so every once in a while someone has troubles with Windows trying to reject it but
that is fairly rare. We used to get about 1 question per month that was specifically about the
Wubi and solved by moving to a dual-boot.
So, there are tons of different ways of avoiding wiping Windows and that seems
to be the best way to make the migration much more gentle and less stressful.
Throwing yourself to the lions is the fastest way to learn to deal with lions
(or die) but there is no real need to create so much stress.
Regards from
Tom :)
--- On Tue, 24/7/12, Simon Cropper <[email protected]> wrote:
From: Simon Cropper <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Migrating from Windows; take it slow
To: [email protected]
Date: Tuesday, 24 July, 2012, 11:05
On 24/07/12 19:36, Keith Bainbridge wrote:
On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 13:41:59 -0400 webmaster-Kracked_P_P
<[email protected]> wrote:
Anyone who really wants to learn how to use Linux as a replacement
for Windows, try dual booting a system if you do not have a spare one
to try Linux with as its only OS.
G'day.
The other option for the odd trip back to windows is virtualisation.
Mostly, you can tell the system to let windows use a device as if you
had booted into windows
Regards
Keith Bainbridge
PO Box 324
BELMONT Vic 3216 Australia
+61 (0)408 522 706
[email protected]
Visualization also has the added benefit of a shared clipboard and being
able to work on the same data at the same time (well nearly).
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