On 10/01/2012 05:57 AM, Pertti Rönnberg wrote: > Dear Wolfgang & Jay, > A. so in your opinion people - both young and old - not yet knowing > anything about computers, perhaps buying their first unit, are - not > only "IT-illiterate" but also "morons" IT - illiterate does not mean moron but sometimes IT - illiterate act like morons when they make decisions not based on facts but hype. > > B. so you agree that among these "IT-illiterate morons (= idiots)" > are bosses, persons in chief position (managers). > When responsible for their dept's/company's strategic and operative > effectiveness and economical result, these "IT-illiterate morons" > decide about the need of an IT-department -- and employ an IT-manager > to that department to take care of the company's IT-system, programs > and personnel included. > Are you not barking at a wrong tree - is it not this your IT-superior > you should bark at? > I take it obvious that neither of you can be in a manager position. I have been in management and have had bosses who being IT-illiterate would be an improvement. One boss insisted that he make the decisions about software, etc. and the other delegated the decision to those that knew something about computers.
Both were small companies. > > C. Obviously you qualify yourselves as highly "IT-literate" -- > perhaps even "non-morons". > Some weeks ago LibO invited people to take part to make LibO better. > Would it not be an good idea that you - instead of blaming others - > took the opportunity to practice your high quality IT-knowledge to the > benefit of LibO. IT - literate, some what. My limits are coding; not particularly good at it mostly because it has always been an ancillary job function. The more I see and watch the more I see old methods dressed up as new and hyped - SaaS, Cloud, etc. I remember dumb terminals on VAX computers - essentially SaaS but called timesharing. Cloud computing has been around since the early days of networking; the only difference is who owns the servers running the data center. Note, I am not oppose (they do offer some benefits) either but detest the excessive hyping and bogus advertising. > Best regards > Pertti Rönnberg > > > On 30.9.2012 23:17, Jay Lozier wrote: >> On 09/30/2012 03:31 PM, Wolfgang Keller wrote: >>> >>> The point is not that there are plenty of hopelessly IT-illiterate >>> morons out there, the point is imho that it's exactly these >>> IT-illiterate morons who "decide" about what those people who have >>> to do >>> the actual work have to "work" with. >> +1, In the US they are called "Pointy Haired Boss" of PHB >>> Sincerely, >>> >>> Wolfgang >>> > > -- Jay Lozier [email protected] -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: [email protected] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
