1 - Brazil.
2 - Not floating, if that's what you mean, but it's always visible in the
taskbar.
3 - You mean the default keyboard layout? It's English (International). I
barely use Portuguese, but I often switch to Japanese.
4 - My language switching shortcuts are mapped to LShift+LAlt+[012] (1 is
English, 2 is Japanese and 0 is Portuguese)
5 - Oops, sorry! It's LibreOffice all the time. I still haven't got 100%
accustomed to the name, it seems.
6 - Yes, the same problem happens. However, in this case the file is
already treated as English when I open it. The same thing happen if I save
a blank file from LO, close it then open again - When I type, it's already
treated as English.
7 - That got me a bit confused, so I'll describe all the language settings
I have:
In the "Region" settings: Locale is set to English (US) (I have also tried
with Portuguese). Location ("home") is set to Brazil. Format (dates,
currency etc) is set to Portuguese (Brazil).
Language settings: I've set English (US), Portuguese (BR) and Japanese, in
this order. The system display language is overrided to English (that means
I can reorder the language list but the system language will remain
English). The default input method is also overrided to English (US) -
International.
Now, I think I found something interesting - I mentioned part of the XML
before. I figured out I didn't need to uncompress the ODF to edit the XML;
I could just replace it with a new version with 7Zip.
This is the original ("faulty") code from the file created inside LO and
then saved:
> <text:p text:style-name="P1"><text:**span *text:style-name="T1"*>Português
> English
</text:span><text:span text:style-name="T2">日本語</text:span><text:span *
text:style-name="T3"*>Português English</text:span></text:p>
If I change it to this, it works as expected:
> <text:p text:style-name="P1"><text:**span *text:style-name="T1"*>Português
> English
</text:span><text:span text:style-name="T2">日本語</text:span><text:span *
text:style-name="T1"*>Português English</text:span></text:p>
Now, in the case of the file created on Windows, it's a bit different:
> <text:p text:style-name="P1"><text:span text:style-name="T1">Português
English </text:span><text:span text:style-name="T2">日本語 Português
English</text:span></text:p>
You can see the whole second text:span block, contains both Japanese and
English, and is treated naturally and both.
I'm not familiar with the ODF XML options, so I don't know what LibreOffice
options deal with what.
Thank you for your continued support.
On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 2:09 AM, Dr. R. O Stapf
<[email protected]>wrote:
> No answers yet only further questions.
>
> 1 - Where are you living?
> 2 - Is the language bar always visible?
> 3 - When you start up your PC which information is to be seen at the
> language bar?
> 4 - When you switch the language bar, which button do you use?
> 5 - "When I opened it on OpenOffice...." are you using OpenOffice AND LibO?
> 6 - When you create a new document from desk top, and write Portuguese and
> Japanese des it behave the same strange way as when you open a new document
> from Writer?
> 7 - "The system language is set to English, and the locale is usually set
> to English (US), and I have installed LO with this locale,... " means your
> regional settings in W7and 8 is English?
>
> For your comparision
> I run XP/SP3
> Regional options
> Standards and Format: English (US) but customize to not use the US formats
> Location: Japan
> Languages - Details
> Default Input language: Japanese Microsoft IME Standard 2002 ver 8.1
> Languages - Advanced:
> Compatibility configuration: unchecked
> System configuration: unchecked
> Advanced:Languages for non Uni-code program: Japanese
>
>
> As for opening the file I cannot help you, I am not an expert and never
> did it myself. I only read recently that a problem with foot and endnotes
> wass solved by modification of the xml -code of the file. I hope that
> someone else in this forum can help you with this.
>
>
>
> On 2012-11-16 10:15, Minix wrote:
>
>> Interesting, I haven't thought about looking at the code. I also noticed
>> something interesting that I'll be covering later. First, I'll answer your
>> questions.
>>
>> 1 - I have an English keyboard, with no numeric keypad.
>> 2 - I switch layouts with the shortcuts LShift+LAlt+[120] (1 being
>> US-Intl,
>> 2 is IME and 0 is ABNT2 (Brazilian Portuguese), which I only use when I
>> don't have an external keyboard). The problem still occurs if I switch by
>> clicking the language bar.
>>
>> Now, thinking on extracting the ODF, I created one from the desktop (right
>> click -> New -> OpenDocument Text). When I opened it on OpenOffice, it
>> treated all text as English from the start. However, if I open Writer and
>> start a new document it presents the behavior I pointed before (starts
>> with
>> Portuguese and switches to English after I type Japanese text). This might
>> be a problem specific to Windows (this happened both in windows 7 and 8
>> for
>> me).
>>
>> The system language is set to English, and the locale is usually set to
>> English (US), and I have installed LO with this locale, but I have tried
>> changing it to Portuguese (Brazil) and the problem still persisted.
>>
>> I don't know how the ODF file is packed, but 7Zip (the software) is able
>> to
>> decompress it. I took a look at the code, but I don't know how to repack
>> the ODF file, so I'm currently unable to test a repacked file. I have now
>> attached two ODF files - One of them was created on Windows, then edited
>> (i.e. is completely treated as English), while the other was created in a
>> new instance of LO, edited and then saved (partially treated as
>> Portuguese).
>>
>> In the source code (content.xml) of the later file, the part that contains
>> the text I typed is transcribed below. I would like to change the
>> style-name of the third span to T1, but I don't know how to repack it to
>> be
>> used with LO.
>>
>> <text:p text:style-name="P1"><text:**span text:style-name="T1">Português
>>
>>> English </text:span><text:span text:style-name="T2">日本語
>>> </text:span><text:span text:style-name="T3">Português
>>> English</text:span></text:p>
>>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 10:18 PM, rost52 <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Now I am reaching the end of my knowledge, but I don't give up yet.
>>>
>>> Questions:
>>> 1 - What kind of keyboard are you using? (Portugese, English, or Japanese
>>> layout)
>>> 2 - How do you change to IME input (please explain keystrokes or mouse
>>> clicks)
>>>
>>> Additionally, you could try to "unzip" the odt-file and look into the
>>> code
>>> behind to see if there is something which leads to understanding and
>>> solution. However, I am not the expert to explain the needed procedure.
>>> Have a look in Ask LibO and search a bit. There was recently an
>>> explanation
>>> on how to "unzip" an odt file.
>>>
>>> Maybe someone in this forum could give some explanations on "unzipping"
>>> and odt-file
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2012-11-16 08:59, Minix wrote:
>>>
>>> After the update the problem persisted, as expected.
>>>>
>>>> I attached to this e-mail a screenshot that shows the problem in action.
>>>> The keyboard layouts used are English International and Microsoft IME
>>>> for
>>>> Japanese.
>>>>
>>>> What I did in that screenshot:
>>>> * I typed "Português English" with the English International layout
>>>> * Switched to Japanese IME
>>>> * Typed "日本語"
>>>> * Switched back to English International
>>>> * Typed "Português English".
>>>>
>>>> The first two words are treated as Portuguese, the third as Japanese,
>>>> and
>>>> the last two as English.
>>>>
>>>> I have already tried setting the locale to "Português (Brasil)", but the
>>>> problem persists. I have also resetted the user profile, as another user
>>>> suggested, to no avail.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 12:00 AM, Minix <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thank you, but that didn't seem to fix the problem.
>>>>
>>>>> I see there's a new LibreOffice version. I believe this issue wasn't
>>>>> corrected, but I'll update it anyway. I'll let you know if the behavior
>>>>> changes.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 11:39 PM, MiguelAngel <[email protected]
>>>>> >*
>>>>> *wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> El 07/11/12 1:28, Minix escribió:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have reproduced your exact same steps, but with Brazilian
>>>>>>> Portuguese
>>>>>>> instead of German. The document language switches back to English as
>>>>>>> soon
>>>>>>> as I start typing again. Likewise, the default language in
>>>>>>> "Tools>Options>Language Settings>Languages>Default languages for
>>>>>>> documents"
>>>>>>> also switches back to English/Japanese when this happens.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Whenever I set the language back to Portuguese, newly typed text is
>>>>>>> treated
>>>>>>> as English. I can, for example, select all the text in Portuguese and
>>>>>>> set
>>>>>>> it to be treated as Portuguese, but any new or modified text gets
>>>>>>> treated
>>>>>>> as English.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Dr. R. O Stapf
>>>>>>> <[email protected]>******wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am not sure if my test matches your situation:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have LibO:
>>>>>>>> - User interface English
>>>>>>>> - Asian language: Japanese
>>>>>>>> - German dictionary installed
>>>>>>>> - Normally I am using English and Japanese
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Test:
>>>>>>>> - Opened a new writer document, started typing in German.
>>>>>>>> - The spellchecker showed errors; red wavy lines under words.
>>>>>>>> - Changed to German (Tools/Language/For all text / German)
>>>>>>>> - Spellchecker removed red wavy lines under words.
>>>>>>>> - Switch over to Japanese writing (半角／全角key) and wrote a Japanese
>>>>>>>> sentence
>>>>>>>> (Kanji, hiragana, katakana) without any problems. No wavy red lines
>>>>>>>> under
>>>>>>>> the Japanese words.
>>>>>>>> - Switched back from Japanese (半角／全角key again) and continued writing
>>>>>>>> German.
>>>>>>>> No wavy red lines under the German words. Thus writer recognized
>>>>>>>> German
>>>>>>>> correctly.
>>>>>>>> - copied Japanese text into clipboard and pasted at the end of the
>>>>>>>> German
>>>>>>>> text (no switching to Japanese writing)
>>>>>>>> - Continued writing German and all is okay.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am using LibO 3.5.7 on XP / SP3
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hope it gives you a hint.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2012-11-06 23:05, Minix wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Good afternoon.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm sorry for insisting, but it's been 13 days and I haven't had a
>>>>>>>>> single
>>>>>>>>> response, nor were able to fix the issue.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> At the very least, is anyone here affected by this problem?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 11:11 PM, Minix <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Good evening.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm running LibreOffice 3.6.2.2 on Windows 7. My default
>>>>>>>>> language in
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> LibreOffice is set to Brazilian Portuguese.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> When I'm typing a text in Portuguese and insert Japanese text, the
>>>>>>>>>> AutoCorrect changes the language to the following text to English.
>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>> text
>>>>>>>>>> that has already been typed as Portuguese remains unaffected. I am
>>>>>>>>>> able
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> set the text manually back to Portuguese, but as soon as Japanese
>>>>>>>>>> text is
>>>>>>>>>> typed, the roman script that comes afterward is treated again as
>>>>>>>>>> English.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Is this a known problem? Do anyone know a solution or workaround
>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> doesn't require manually changing the language every time?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> - Raphael Campos
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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