Yes, you can encrypt it first, but a) that is an extra step and b) it only
gives you a semi-useful backup, not a fully versioned document store.

If you want encrypted backups then I'd suggest SpiderOak instead - they
encrypt it with a key they don't know, so they *can't* read it. Still, for
Corporate environments, that isn't as useful as a central managed store
that they can just backup once.
On Feb 14, 2013 6:48 PM, "Felmon Davis" <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Thu, 14 Feb 2013, IBBoard wrote:
>
>  Sharepoint is a self-hosted solution. You are relying on a Microsoft
>> product, but the documents are never handed over to Microsoft and none of
>> the files never leave your network. It isn't perfect, but is generally
>> fairly secure (as secure as your networks, anyway) and companies can use
>> it.
>>
>> Dropbox is an unencrypted cloud solution. Once it is on the Dropbox severs
>> then any of the Dropbox staff /could/ read it. Or it could be copied or
>> otherwise lost by people who aren't your employees. Or it could be leaked
>> as party of a wider Dropbox hack/leak. Or it could be retrieved by a
>> foreign government (USA, I think) without your knowledge. Generally, it is
>> out of your corporate network perimeter and hence out of your control. In
>> general, that is *not* a good thing.
>>
>> That's not to say people can't use Dropbox. If you don't value your files
>> (or have some reason to trust that nothing will happen to your unencrypted
>> files in an unknown data centre or data centres) then that might be fine,
>> but for a company that has to protect its ideas and business secrets then
>> an internally hosted solution is the only sensible option, even if it is
>> from Microsoft.
>>
>
> I wholly concur that it is generally better to keep stuff 'home' to the
> extent possible. (just lost a local struggle here about this issue but
> regarding using google apps.)
>
> you could put _encrypted_ files on Busybox thus obviating that security
> leak, and you could maintain backups thus ensuring you don't lose the
> files. but better keep things at home.
>
> F.
>
>
>  On Feb 14, 2013 6:21 PM, "Felmon Davis" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>  On Thu, 14 Feb 2013, IBBoard wrote:
>>>
>>>  Microsoft might not have control over it, but Dropbox will. For a
>>>
>>>> business,
>>>> that is unacceptable - and rightly so, since it means important
>>>> documents
>>>> go outside your perimeter. Instead they use a document management system
>>>> (like Sharepoint or Alfresco) that they install and manage centrally.
>>>>
>>>> Unlike a wiki, a document management system gives full, normal document
>>>> management. Unlike a CMS it is all about documents, and unlike a LAN
>>>> share
>>>> it does versioning and workflow.
>>>>
>>>> Basically, Sharepoint is something for businesses. A normal user will
>>>> never
>>>> need it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I don't understand the relation between these propositions:
>>>
>>> a) "Microsoft might not have control over it, but Dropbox will. For a
>>> business, that is unacceptable..."
>>>
>>> b) "Basically, Sharepoint is something for businesses."
>>>
>>> is the point that it is better for a business that Microsoft hold their
>>> documents than that Busybox does?
>>>
>>> just seeking clarification.
>>>
>>> (I have Busybox but don't use it for a number of reasons; I am not
>>> acquainted enough with Sharepoint.)
>>>
>>> F.
>>>
>>>  On Feb 14, 2013 5:28 PM, "anne-ology" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>         Content Management System  ;-) ... LAN  ;-) ... a wiki ;-)  ???
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           as to these - I haven't a clue; I'll continue to stick with
>>>>> the
>>>>> KISs method  ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>>        But if we each sign up to use DropBox, we can each end up with
>>>>> 6Gb
>>>>> of free space to use as we wish in sharing documents -
>>>>>            and MsFt does not have any control over this  :-)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Tom Davies <[email protected]
>>>>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi :)
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ahh, so is it a sort of Content Management System that can be used to
>>>>>>
>>>>> hold
>>>>>
>>>>>> documents centrally, like putting them on a shared folder on a Lan so
>>>>>>
>>>>> that
>>>>>
>>>>>> everyone can work on the same file instead of each generating
>>>>>> different
>>>>>> copies and then trying to compare all the different ones to
>>>>>> incorporate
>>>>>>
>>>>> all
>>>>>
>>>>>> the different changes?  Sort of like a wiki?
>>>>>> Regards from
>>>>>> Tom :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   ------------------------------
>>>>>> *From:* anne-ology <[email protected]>
>>>>>> *To:* Tom <[email protected]>
>>>>>> *Cc:* [email protected]
>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, 14 February 2013, 16:53
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-users] Share-point?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       Just 'searched' and found this -
>>>>>>           
>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?****v=s12Jb5Z2xaE<http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=s12Jb5Z2xaE>
>>>>>> <http://www.**youtube.com/watch?v=**s12Jb5Z2xaE<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s12Jb5Z2xaE>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       Seems somewhat silly since we could all benefit if we were to
>>>>>> use
>>>>>> DropBox -
>>>>>>           http://db.tt/v1nUSr8M
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 2:24 AM, Tom Davies <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Has anyone managed to get MS Sharepoint working with 4.0.0?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Apparently
>>>>>
>>>>>> it's one of the features that are supposed to be in the 4.0.0
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> although
>>>>> i
>>>>>
>>>>>> have no idea what SharePoint is nor why anyone would use it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> According to the comments under this article
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> http://www.webupd8.org/2013/****02/libreoffice-40-available-**<http://www.webupd8.org/2013/**02/libreoffice-40-available-**>
>>>>> for-download.html<http://www.**webupd8.org/2013/02/**
>>>>> libreoffice-40-available-for-**download.html<http://www.webupd8.org/2013/02/libreoffice-40-available-for-download.html>
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>>> Somewhere about 1/4 up from the bottom
>>>>>>> "Алексей Бродкин • 6 days ago
>>>>>>> It seems like some of highlighted options are missing from this
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> release.
>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. Unity/Global menu integration - at least I cannot see it in action
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> or
>>>>>
>>>>>> any toggle in setting
>>>>>>> 2. SharePoint integration. From here http://tekonorma.fr/WPblogTN/**
>>>>>>> ** <http://tekonorma.fr/WPblogTN/**>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. <http://tekonorma.fr/WPblogTN/**2 <http://tekonorma.fr/WPblogTN/2>
>>>>> .>..
>>>>> I
>>>>>
>>>>>> learnt that to have this option one needs to instal a corresponding
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> plug-in
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> from here http://extensions.libreoffice.****... and you may see this
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> link
>>>>>
>>>>>> leads to "This page does not seem to exist..." - seems like due to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> legal
>>>>>
>>>>>> issue plugin was removed."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sure enough the link didn't work so i got to the Extensions site
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> another
>>>>>
>>>>>> way but a quick search to find "sharepoint" or "share point" didn't
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> reveal
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> any relevant Extensions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards from
>>>>>>> Tom :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
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