Hi :)  
1.  I was thinking more like a couple of days.  Sundays might be good to catch 
the weekend crowd and still catch the early week-days people.  

2.  Do you need to grab all the time or can you leave the grabs to batch 
process them?  If rebooting into Windows is something you only need to do 1/day 
or something then it might not be so tough.  Eventually you will find some way 
around it.  Sorry no-one has dealt with this part of your question yet.  

3.  Keeping the old Windows machine for a while makes sense but you might be 
able to just move the old hard-drive into your new machine.  On your new 
machine in Ubuntu get to a command-line to run
sudo update-grub
and then grub2 will find and add your old drive's version of Windows to it's 
boot-menu.  When you first boot into the old Windows it will freak out a bit 
and keep saying "Found new hardware".  It might take half an hour or so before 
it starts all that though and it's only a one-off for all the new hardware.  

Typically new machines come with Windows included in the price and may even 
cost more without Windows.  It's a bit bizarre.  It's partly due to bulk 
purchasing and partly due to special deals made on the obligatory bundled 
software.  Some people call it "the Windows tax" because it means every new pc 
sale generates some income for MS regardless of whether it will ever get used 
or not.  

Nowadays the version of MS Office that gets bundled in is typically trial-ware 
rather than full version.  So it has limited functionality or stops working 
after a short period of time.  It's a 'good' way of getting people hooked on 
using it and then 'forcing' them into paying the extra in order to get the full 
version.  In the unlikely event that you have the installer Cds for your old 
version of MS Office you might be able to install that on your newer machine 
although you'll need to phone MS to confirm that re-using your license is due 
to replacing your machine and getting rid of the old one.  They should allow it 
and sometimes they do.  

The easier route is to just drastically shrink the Windows partitions and avoid 
booting into them at all.  Install Ubuntu (or whatever) as a dual-boot but just 
avoid using the Windows on that drive.  If you already had your old hard-drive 
from your old machine plugged in when installing Ubuntu then you old version of 
Windows will automatically appear in the boot-menu but if you add the drive 
later (my preferred way) then just updating grub adds it in.  

4.  MS Office is horribly bloated with tons of stuff that 90% of users never 
use.  Apparently around 80% of MS Office features never get used by around 90% 
of MS Office users.  But they still need to hog resources (such as space in 
Ram) just in case you do need them.  The LibreOffice/OpenOffice way is to have 
plenty of add-ons to cover plenty of those extra things so you can add them if 
you want but not suffer from the bloat if you don't need all that unused stuff. 
 Then the Unix or Gnu&Linux way is to have independent 3rd party programs 
specialising in functionality such as Emailing or Calendar so that you can 
choose from amoungst competing packages to choose the one that most suits your 
needs rather than trying to fit into a one-program-suits-all.  

As for VBA isn't that based on Basic which was popular in the 1980's?  
LibreOffice/OpenOffice seem to offer a choice of 4 languages for macros.  I 
think Python is probably far better and more secure but apparently Javascript 
is another alternative.  I've not heard of BeanShell before.  If you really 
need Basic then LibreOffice/OpenOffice basic is different enough that the 
malware that macros are famous for don't work or are unlikely to work in 
LibreOffice.  I don't think MS Office lets you choose different languages for 
macros.  Python sounds like a much better option.  

Regards from 
Tom :)    





>________________________________
> From: Supiramani Supiramani <hisupiram...@hotmail.com>
>To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
>Sent: Saturday, 20 April 2013, 8:20
>Subject: RE: [libreoffice-users] RE: How to grab web data into libre office 
>calc ? Or Addons to grab specific web data into libre calc
> 
>
>Thanks Tom 
>
>Detailed replies once again from you .... Much appreciated ....
>
>I'm afraid I can't keep up with you !:-) 
>
>1. Posting at other forums ...what do you suggest ? Wait for a week and post 
>same question elsewhere ? So that regular readers don't get piss3d off ? Or ? 
>I will at least wait till end of weekend 
>
>2. Yes... I have tried this use parallel machines windows and Ubuntu side by 
>side ... Ms office and libre side by side  concept. I think this web page data 
>grabbing is the main limitation as far as I am concerned ...my usage is 
>concerned. The rest are small inconveniences . I don't k ow for sure. I may 
>find more areas. 
>
>3. having two machines , dual boot etc etc ; i hope to hold on to the old 
>windows machine for some months, try back and forth, decide if there are some 
>very critical problems / areas not addressed by ubuntu etc. but the age of the 
>old machine and other factors may finally decide it ( Dual system ) ...  I may 
>have to move to a new machine soon. On the new machine I will NOT buy windows 
>and ms office because that seems costly to just experiment ..... the machines 
>are just about the same. windows and ms office adds some $250 or so on top. so 
>i do not plan to buy windows again on the new machine. so the age of the old 
>machine will decide how long I can hold on to windows , ms office 
>
>4. My experiments so far tell me that ms office has these additional functions 
>and a large VBA library and help forums which may be missing or which may be 
>just under development in libre office etc ...that seems to be the catch 
>
>
>Thanks and regards
>
>
>Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2013 01:49:07 +0100
>From: tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] RE: How to grab web data into libre office 
>calc ? Or Addons to grab specific web data into libre calc
>To: hisupiram...@hotmail.com; users@global.libreoffice.org
>
>Hi :)
>So the official forum is at
>https://launchpad.net/ubuntu
>along with a ton of other stuff.  Ubuntu is so huge that it easily supports 
>several communities and there is another forum at 
>http://ubuntuforums.org/forum.php
>and there is the cross-distro forum at 
>http://www.linuxquestions/org
>
>The Windows way is to slash-and-burn, to completely lose the older system when 
>you want to move to something new (or just different).  This means you get 
>stuck with Win7 (or Win8 or whatever) before you have any idea how to use it.  
>
>The Gnu&Linux way is to install alongside so that you can keep using the older 
>system so that you can keep meeting deadlines but allows you to test-drive the 
>newer system and gradually become more familiar with
>it.  
>
>A good migration path into Ubuntu is to 
>1.   use some of the same apps in Windows.  So move away from Internet 
>Explorer and start using Firefox (so you can still use IE if you need to), 
>install LibreOffice/OpenOffice in Windows but keep whatever version of MS 
>Office you use, Gimp instead of Photoshop and so on until you feel comfortable 
>with change.  
>
>During that phase it's good to get an old machine out of a cupboard or 
>something so you can try installing Ubuntu (or whatever) as a Dual-boot 
>without losing Windows.  It's reasonably easy and has a fairly automatic path 
>but it's still a good idea to have a practice.  Ubuntu is one of the few that 
>has a cunning way of installing inside Windows but it's better to do a proper 
>dual-boot.  
>
>2.  At first you are probably going to boot into Windows more than Ubuntu.  
>Don't worry about it.  Just push yourself into using Ubuntu to
>explore.  
>
>3.  Eventually you will start finding things are faster and often easier in 
>Ubuntu although there are probably a couple of things you feel the need to 
>tweak quite a bit.  There may still be one or 2 odd things that you haven't 
>had time to figure out so it's easier to keep the Windows for those rare 
>things.  Probably most of us have a Windows fairly near at hand, although 
>outside of work i would be hard-pushed to find mine nowadays.  In work i 
>probably use them about half-and-half.  
>
>
>When NASA find a new place far from Earth they don't start by trying a landing 
>straight away.  They have a 3 step process with each step learning more and 
>more until they know enough to have a reasonable chance of a smooth landing 
>rather than just crashing
>1.  Fly-by
>2.  Orbit
>3.  Test-landings
>
>In most engineering disciplines it's generally considered a good idea to build 
>a mock-up
>or prototype before launching into full-scale production.  
>
>So quite why the Windows world wants you to always abandon your working system 
>and replace it with something completely new and different is a bit of a 
>mystery.  It makes people nervous about trying the new thing if they can't 
>return to their familiar system.  
>
>Regards from 
>Tom :)  
>
>
>        From: Happylibre
><hisupiram...@hotmail.com>
>To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
>Sent: Saturday, 20 April 2013, 0:29
>Subject: [libreoffice-users] RE: How to grab web data into libre office calc ? 
>Or Addons to grab specific web data into libre calc
>  
>Hi
>
>I'm planning to use Ubuntu
>
>I forgot to add that answer on my earlier reply
>
>
>Regards
>
>
>Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 14:00:05 -0700
>From: ml-node+s969070n4051163...@n3.nabble.com
>To: hisupiram...@hotmail.com
>Subject: Re: How to grab web data into libre office calc ? Or Addons to grab 
>specific web
>data into libre calc
>
>
>
>    Hi :)
>
>You are asking in the right place and hopefully someone might have a good 
>
>answer for you or be able to point to places that might have more 
>
>detailed knowledge of what you are looking for.  Most of us started with 
>Windows and many of us still use it a lot.  
>
>
>
>I tried a search for "smb" and then for "web" on our Extensions / Add-ons / 
>Plug-ins site 
>
>
>http://extensions.libreoffice.org/extension-center?getCategories=&getCompatibility=any&sort_on=positive_ratings&path=%2FLibreOffice-Extensions-and-Templates%2Fextension-center&portal_type=PSCProject&SearchableText=web
>but didn't find much.  It might be better to search in OpenOffice's 
>
>Extensions as many of them probably still work well or have maintainers 
>
>that might be interested in updating it in order to make it work in 
>
>LibreOffice.  Also the OpenOffice forums might be a good place to post 
>
>questions but if you do and post here as well then it's polite to let 
>
>both places know when you have found an answer and what the answer was.  
>
>
>
>Also most versions of Gnu&Linux (=distros) have their own forums and 
>
>mailing lists so it might similarly be good to post questions there in a 
>similar way.  Which distro do you use at the
>moment?  Ubuntu/Mint, 
>
>Mageia, Fedora , openSUSE or which?  DistroWatch is a good place to 
>
>look-up the official forum/mailing-list for your distro
>
>http://distrowatch.com
>for example to find the Ubuntu ones try here (it redirects)
>
>
>http://distrowatch.com/ubuntu
>for Fedora find some good links here
>
>http://distrowatch.com/fedora
>
>There is also a general-purpose forum at 
>
>
>http://www.linuxquestions/org
>that covers many, maybe all different distros but often you get answers from 
>people using completely different distros, possibly even from different 
>families so you sometimes have to figure out how to apply it to yours.  Most 
>programs are either the
>same in each;  LibreOffice/OpenOffice, 
>
>Firefox, Thunderbird and many others.  Sometimes they choose slightly 
>
>different choices such as Chrome, Seamonkey, Opera instead of Firefox, 
>similarly with utilities such as your  "package manager" so it doesn't take 
>much to work out how to apply their advice and people at LinuxQuestions might 
>even help with that.  
>
>
>
>Also there are other LibreOffice places such as AskLibO
>
>
>http://ask.libreoffice.org/en/questions/
>
>and other places you can find at 
>
>
>http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/
>but i still prefer this mailing-list.  
>
>
>
>Good luck and regards from 
>
>
>Tom :)  
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>________________________________
>
>> From: Supiramani Supiramani
><[hidden email]>
>
>>To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> 
>
>>Sent: Friday, 19 April 2013, 20:12
>
>>Subject: RE: [libreoffice-users] How to grab web data into libre office calc 
>>? Or Addons to grab specific web data into libre calc
>
>> 
>
>>
>
>>please take a look at the image at 
>
>>http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/smf_addin/
>>
>
>>you will see it has 100s of data
>
>>
>
>>copy paste would take ages
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>--------
>
>>regards
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 13:02:08 -0500
>
>>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] How to grab web data into libre office calc 
>>? Or Addons to grab specific web data into libre calc
>
>>From: [hidden email]
>
>>To: [hidden email]
>
>>CC: [hidden
>email]
>
>>
>
>>       Could you highlight the area(s) you desire then copy then paste to 
>>wherever you wish the data?
>
>>            that's my system;
>
>>       [but I may not be understanding to what you're referring since I have 
>>no clue as what smf is  ;-)  ]
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Happylibre wrote:
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>Hi
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>Preamble ...skip if in a hurry
>
>>
>
>>--------------------------------------------
>
>>
>
>>*I've been on the m$ office treadmill for 15 + years
>
>>
>
>>*I've always been scared of Linux and thought it was all command line
>
>>
>
>>*Recently stumbled on Linux and libre office ...so I am  completely new to
>
>>
>
>>libre
>office
>
>>
>
>>*Used it for a few days ... Truly it's a great piece of software and
>
>>
>
>>dispelled most of my doubts on Linux, using Linux, libre office etc etc
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>Question / request reading
>
>>
>
>>------------------------------------------
>
>>
>
>>*However some specific doubts remain on libre office
>
>>
>
>>*I've been using M$ XL's add on for grabbing web data , called smf add in
>
>>
>
>>*When activated, once could easily grab specific pages, specific cells of
>
>>
>
>>web pages directly into xl ( without opening a web browser)
>
>>
>
>>*This is a great time saver
>
>>
>
>>*The only and only /  excellent  group for using smf add in  can be found at
>
>>
>
>>http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/smf_addin/
>>
>
>>*Some  basic write up on using smf add in can be found here
>
>>
>
>>http://seekingalpha.com/instablog/326478-derek-a-barrett/1414481-automating-alpha-getting-started-with-stock-market-functions-smf-add-in-for-excel
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>Now, my question is , is there a similar add in for libre office, when
>
>>
>
>>invoked , could help the user  get specific cells ( not the whole web page )
>
>>
>
>>from a URL  into libre xl sheets ? Of course the user supplies the URL
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>Or is there some app in Linux that can do the same
>?
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>How do people grab specific web data ( not entire pages ) but specific data
>
>>
>
>>for web pages into libre calc ?
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>Request to Moderators ; if I am posting on the wrong area or group please
>
>>
>
>>most this post accordingly
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>Thanks in advance
>
>>
>
>>Regards
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>                          
>
>>-- 
>
>>For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: [hidden email]
>
>>Problems? 
>>http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
>>Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
>>List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
>>All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>-- 
>
>For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: [hidden email]
>
>Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
>Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
>List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
>All
>messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
>
>
>
>
>    
>    
>    
>    
>
>    
>
>    
>    
>        If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the 
>discussion below:
>        
>http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/How-to-grab-web-data-into-libre-office-calc-Or-Addons-to-grab-specific-web-data-into-libre-calc-tp4051120p4051163.html
>    
>    
>        
>        To unsubscribe from How to grab web data into libre office calc ? Or
>Addons to grab specific web data into libre calc, click here.
>
>        NAML
>                              
>
>
>
>--
>View this message in context: 
>http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/How-to-grab-web-data-into-libre-office-calc-Or-Addons-to-grab-specific-web-data-into-libre-calc-tp4051120p4051176.html
>Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>-- 
>For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org
>Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
>Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
>List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
>All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
>
>
>
>                                 
>-- 
>For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org
>Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
>Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
>List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
>All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
>
>
>
>
-- 
For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted

Reply via email to