>Hi :)
>
Hi Tom and others !
>1. I was thinking more like a couple of days.
>Sundays might be good to catch the weekend crowd and
>still catch the early week-days people.
>
sure
>2. Do you need to grab all the time or can you leave
>the grabs to batch process them?
batch process would do . grab data once in two days say .....
>If rebooting into
>Windows is something you only need to do 1/day or
>something then it might not be so tough.
I plan to get out of windows totally ...but that is a plan
>Typically new machines come with Windows included in
>the price and may even cost more without Windows.
I didn't know this ... hmm... then my plan fails ! I can stop writing here :-( !
>It's a bit bizarre. It's partly due to bulk
>purchasing and partly due to special deals made on the
>obligatory bundled software. Some people call it "the
>Windows tax" because it means every new pc sale
>generates some income for MS regardless of whether it
>will ever get used or not.
>
I see
> In
>the unlikely event that you have the installer Cds for
>your old version of MS Office you might be able to
>install that on your newer machine
I do NOT have the old CDs
>The easier route is to just drastically shrink the
>Windows partitions and avoid booting into them at all.
ok
>Install Ubuntu (or whatever) as a dual-boot but just
>avoid using the Windows on that drive. If you already
>had your old hard-drive from your old machine plugged
>in when installing Ubuntu then you old version of
>Windows will automatically appear in the boot-menu but
>if you add the drive later (my preferred way) then
>just updating grub adds it in.
I have to check IF there are web tutorials on how to do this ..... I know you
have written a lot, but I'm lost when it comes to dual boot / dos commands /
Cont + alt + T etc !!! :-(
>
>4. MS Office is horribly bloated with tons of stuff
>that 90% of users never use.
agreed
>As for VBA isn't that based on Basic which was
>popular in the 1980's? LibreOffice/OpenOffice seem to
>offer a choice of 4 languages for macros. I think
>Python is probably far better and more secure but
>apparently Javascript is another alternative.
I din't know this. even IF I did , do I know how to use phython ? NO.. !! so
..., I've lost you on a lot of what is said after this line ! :-(
>I've
>not heard of BeanShell before. If you really need
>Basic then LibreOffice/OpenOffice basic is different
>enough that the malware that macros are famous for
>don't work or are unlikely to work in LibreOffice. I
>don't think MS Office lets you choose different
>languages for macros. Python sounds like a much
>better option.
>
>Regards from
>
>Tom :)
Thanks and regards
From: Supiramani
Supiramani <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, 20 April 2013, 8:20
Subject: RE: [libreoffice-users] RE: How to grab web data into libre office
calc ? Or Addons to grab specific web data into libre calc
Thanks Tom
Detailed replies once again from you .... Much appreciated ....
I'm afraid I can't keep up with you !:-)
1. Posting at other forums ...what do you suggest ? Wait for a week and post
same question elsewhere ? So that regular readers don't get piss3d off ? Or ? I
will at least wait till end of weekend
2. Yes... I have tried this use parallel machines windows and Ubuntu side by
side ... Ms office and libre side by side concept. I think this web page data
grabbing
is the main limitation as far as I am concerned ...my usage is concerned. The
rest are small inconveniences . I don't k ow for sure. I may find more areas.
3. having two machines , dual boot etc etc ; i hope to hold on to the old
windows machine for some months, try back and forth, decide if there are some
very critical problems / areas not addressed by ubuntu etc. but the age of the
old machine and other factors may finally decide it ( Dual system ) ... I may
have to move to a new machine soon. On the new machine I will NOT buy windows
and ms office because that seems costly to just experiment ..... the machines
are just about the same. windows and ms office adds some $250 or so on top. so
i do not plan to buy windows again on the new machine. so the age of the old
machine will decide how long I can hold on to windows , ms office
4. My experiments so far tell me that ms office has these additional functions
and a large VBA library
and help forums which may be missing or which may be just under development in
libre office etc ...that seems to be the catch
Thanks and regards
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2013 01:49:07 +0100
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] RE: How to grab web data into libre office
calc ? Or Addons to grab specific web data into libre calc
To: [email protected]; [email protected]
Hi :)
So the official forum is at
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu
along with a ton of other stuff. Ubuntu is so huge that it easily supports
several communities and there is
another forum at
http://ubuntuforums.org/forum.php
and there is the cross-distro forum at
http://www.linuxquestions/org
The Windows way is to slash-and-burn, to completely lose the older system when
you want to move to something new (or just different). This means you get
stuck with Win7 (or Win8 or whatever) before you have any idea how to use it.
The Gnu&Linux way is to install alongside so that you can keep using the older
system so that you can keep meeting deadlines but allows you to test-drive the
newer system and gradually become more familiar with
it.
A good migration path into Ubuntu is to
1. use some of the same apps in Windows. So move away from Internet Explorer
and start using Firefox (so you can still use IE if you need to), install
LibreOffice/OpenOffice in Windows but keep whatever version of MS Office you
use, Gimp instead of Photoshop and so on until you feel comfortable with
change.
During that phase it's good to get an old machine out of a cupboard or
something so you can try installing Ubuntu (or whatever) as a Dual-boot without
losing Windows. It's reasonably easy and has a fairly automatic path but it's
still a good idea to have a practice. Ubuntu is one of the few that has a
cunning way of installing inside Windows but it's better to do a proper
dual-boot.
2. At first you are probably going to boot into Windows more than Ubuntu.
Don't worry about it. Just push yourself into using Ubuntu to
explore.
3. Eventually you will start finding things are faster and often easier in
Ubuntu although there are probably a couple of things you feel the need to
tweak quite a bit. There may still be
one or 2 odd things that you haven't had time to figure out so it's easier to
keep the Windows for those rare things. Probably most of us have a Windows
fairly near at hand, although outside of work i would be hard-pushed to find
mine nowadays. In work i probably use them about half-and-half.
When NASA find a new place far from Earth they don't start by trying a landing
straight away. They have a 3 step process with each step learning more and
more until they know enough to have a reasonable chance of a smooth landing
rather than just crashing
1. Fly-by
2. Orbit
3. Test-landings
In most engineering disciplines it's generally considered a good idea to build
a mock-up
or prototype before launching into full-scale production.
So quite why the Windows world wants you to always abandon your working system
and replace it with something completely new and different is a bit
of a mystery. It makes people nervous about trying the new thing if they
can't return to their familiar system.
Regards from
Tom :)
From: Happylibre
<[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, 20 April 2013, 0:29
Subject: [libreoffice-users] RE: How to grab web data into libre office calc ?
Or Addons to grab specific web data into libre calc
Hi
I'm planning to use Ubuntu
I forgot to add that answer on my earlier reply
Regards
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 14:00:05 -0700
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: How to grab web data into libre office calc ? Or Addons to grab
specific web
data into libre calc
Hi :)
You are asking in the right place and hopefully someone might have a good
answer for you or be able to point to places that might have more
detailed knowledge of what you are looking for. Most of us started with
Windows and many of us still use it a lot.
I tried a search for "smb" and then for "web" on our Extensions / Add-ons /
Plug-ins site
http://extensions.libreoffice.org/extension-center?getCategories=&getCompatibility=any&sort_on=positive_ratings&path=%2FLibreOffice-Extensions-and-Templates%2Fextension-center&portal_type=PSCProject&SearchableText=web
but didn't find much. It might be better to search in OpenOffice's
Extensions as many of them probably still work well or have maintainers
that might be interested in updating it in order to make it work in
LibreOffice. Also the OpenOffice forums might be a good place to post
questions but if you do and post here as well then it's polite to let
both places know when you have found an answer and what the
answer was.
Also most versions of Gnu&Linux (=distros) have their own forums and
mailing lists so it might similarly be good to post questions there in a
similar way. Which distro do you use at the
moment? Ubuntu/Mint,
Mageia, Fedora , openSUSE or which? DistroWatch is a good place to
look-up the official forum/mailing-list for your distro
http://distrowatch.com
for example to find the Ubuntu ones try here (it redirects)
http://distrowatch.com/ubuntu
for Fedora find some good links here
http://distrowatch.com/fedora
There is also a general-purpose forum at
http://www.linuxquestions/org
that covers
many, maybe all different distros but often you get answers from people using
completely different distros, possibly even from different families so you
sometimes have to figure out how to apply it to yours. Most programs are
either the
same in each; LibreOffice/OpenOffice,
Firefox, Thunderbird and many others. Sometimes they choose slightly
different choices such as Chrome, Seamonkey, Opera instead of Firefox,
similarly with utilities such as your "package manager" so it doesn't take
much to work out how to apply their advice and people at LinuxQuestions might
even help with that.
Also there are other LibreOffice places such as AskLibO
http://ask.libreoffice.org/en/questions/
and other places you can find at
http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/
but i still prefer this mailing-list.
Good luck and regards from
Tom :)
>________________________________
> From: Supiramani Supiramani
<[hidden email]>
>To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
>Sent: Friday, 19 April 2013, 20:12
>Subject: RE: [libreoffice-users] How to grab web data into libre office calc ?
>Or Addons to grab specific web data into libre calc
>
>
>please take a look at the image at
>http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/smf_addin/
>
>you will see it has 100s of data
>
>copy paste would take
ages
>
>
>
>--------
>regards
>
>
>Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 13:02:08 -0500
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] How to grab web data into libre office calc ?
>Or Addons to grab specific web data into libre calc
>From: [hidden email]
>To: [hidden email]
>CC: [hidden
email]
>
> Could you highlight the area(s) you desire then copy then paste to
> wherever you wish the data?
> that's my system;
> [but I may not be understanding to what you're referring since I have
> no clue as what smf is ;-) ]
>
>
>
>
>On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Happylibre wrote:
>
>
>Hi
>
>
>
>Preamble ...skip if in a
hurry
>
>--------------------------------------------
>
>*I've been on the m$ office treadmill for 15 + years
>
>*I've always been scared of Linux and thought it was all command line
>
>*Recently stumbled on Linux and libre office ...so I am completely new to
>
>libre
office
>
>*Used it for a few days ... Truly it's a great piece of software and
>
>dispelled most of my doubts on Linux, using Linux, libre office etc etc
>
>
>
>Question / request reading
>
>------------------------------------------
>
>*However some specific doubts remain on libre office
>
>*I've been using M$ XL's add on for grabbing web data , called smf add in
>
>*When activated, once could easily grab specific pages,
specific cells of
>
>web pages directly into xl ( without opening a web browser)
>
>*This is a great time saver
>
>*The only and only / excellent group for using smf add in can be found at
>
>http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/smf_addin/
>
>*Some basic write up on using smf add in can be found here
>
>http://seekingalpha.com/instablog/326478-derek-a-barrett/1414481-automating-alpha-getting-started-with-stock-market-functions-smf-add-in-for-excel
>
>
>
>
>Now, my question is , is there a similar add in for libre
office, when
>
>invoked , could help the user get specific cells ( not the whole web page )
>
>from a URL into libre xl sheets ? Of course the user supplies the URL
>
>
>
>Or is there some app in Linux that can do the same
?
>
>
>
>How do people grab specific web data ( not entire pages ) but specific data
>
>for web pages into libre calc ?
>
>
>
>Request to Moderators ; if I am posting on the wrong area or group please
>
>most this post accordingly
>
>
>
>
>
>Thanks in advance
>
>Regards
>
>
>
>
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