On 4/30/2013 6:56 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
Hi :)
I am a bit bitter about this sort of thing too.  Even back when i was in school 
i could see teachers clearly trying to help people.  Unfortunately general 
attitudes of the kids in the classroom meant that even those of us that were 
interested in learning the skill had a tough time.  It didn't improve at Uni.


There have been some excellent suggestions in this list.  Perhaps set a 
mini-competition half the class using 1 technique. Perhaps ask for hands up if  
they can't cope with using styles, in order to play to the machismo of some.  
When the results are in ask who can change the formatting of their document 
fastest.

Another idea is to get a horribly mangled paragraph and challenge them to 
insert it into their document to fit the style of their own work.

I frequently have to do this for my company's newsletter and at first found it 
took hours to try to fix people's messes in Word.  In LibreOffice i just pasted 
as unformatted and then applied styles taking just a couple of minutes at most.

However i still think it's easier to teach people things they want to learn.  
Trying to trick them into wanting to learn about something else is a tough 
challenge.

Regards from

Tom :)



I first learned about styles and templates with Microsoft Word, and I think it is clear that this is something that all word processors do, for a very good reason. Back in the 1990s I developed a course for our degree completion students (basically people in their 40s who had started on a bachelors degree but never finished it). They needed to demonstrate proficiency with office software programs to graduate, and if they could not pass a test they could take my course and pass it. What almost always happened was that they put it off until the last possible time either because they thought they already knew it all, or because they thought they couldn't learn computer stuff and were afraid. By the time I was done with them, they almost always complained that they should have been given the course at the beginning because it would have saved them so much time. So people can learn this, and people can see the benefit of learning this.

I now do training sessions at placed like Ohio LinuxFest, and they are very well received. I just did another this past weekend at Penguicon, and had very enthusiastic participation. These are all people who chose to be there, so there is no possible implication of force involved. These are tools, and every tool works best if you learn how to do it properly. If you pick up the wrong saw and use it the wrong way, you may eventually cut the piece of wood, but it will look bad and take a lot more effort than it should.

Regards,

--
Kevin B. O'Brien
zwil...@zwilnik.com
A damsel with a dulcimer in a vision once I saw.


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