Hi :) +1 to normally installing from repos and the rest of your advice was & is all good too. Regards from Tom :)
>________________________________ > From: Sina Momken <digi...@gmail.com> >To: users@global.libreoffice.org >Cc: Regina Henschel <rb.hensc...@t-online.de>; "users@global.libreoffice.org" ><users@global.libreoffice.org> >Sent: Friday, 9 August 2013, 20:08 >Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing 4.1 on OpenSuse > > >Hello Davies, > >In the case of LO you're right and manual install will not cause any issue. >But as a typical user of Linux I prefer installing applications from the >default or 3rd party repo. Because this way is easier and mainly because >of AUTOMATIC UPDATE capability. >But many members of this list (like you and Regina) are more than just >typical users of Linux and are somehow professional LO users. Therefore >in this case you're right and manual install can be a good option too. >Anyway it's up to you. > >Best, > Sina > > > >On 08/09/2013 09:01 PM, Tom Davies wrote: >> Hi :) >> This is all true but LibreOffice and Evolution are exceptions because most >> repos have such older versions that most people want to upgrade. >> >> LO has some tweaks for different DEs (that's what the desktop integration is >> about (i think)) and so mostly it's preferable to have the more advanced >> features rather than just a slightly nicer looking one. LO looks quite nice >> enough from the site as it is. Also i don't think there is a problem with >> dependency issues. Mostly the package managers take care of all that >> although some distros make that quite tough (not looking at anyone in >> particular Girvin (Slackware right?)). I think you state that in point 3 so >> i am just agreeing there. There is not much danger of the problems in 4 >> although it's theoretically possible. >> >> So i think you raise over-complicated points that are not really relevant. >> Since most of the rest of us also do that quite often you are in the right >> place :) Welcome in too! :D >> Regards from >> Tom :) >> >> >> >> >> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: Sina Momken <digi...@gmail.com> >>> To: Regina Henschel <rb.hensc...@t-online.de> >>> Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org >>> Sent: Friday, 9 August 2013, 15:40 >>> Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing 4.1 on OpenSuse >>> >>> >>> On 08/09/2013 03:22 PM, Regina Henschel wrote: >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I make my first steps in using Linux and have got a OpenSuse 12.3 on my >>>> old Notebook. Now I try to install LO4.1. I have download the archive, >>>> unpacked it and followed the instructions in its readme. >>> >>> Hello Regina, >>> I appreciate your efforts to shift to Free Software. However in the >>> Linux world unlike in Windows most users use Repositories to install, >>> manage and update applications. There are many advantages of using repos: >>> 1- The repo itself tracks latest version of applications and so you can >>> always be updated without the need to download and update your >>> applications one by one. >>> 2- All packages in a repo are consistent with each other. As you may >>> know many packages depend on others (i.e. libraries); When you manually >>> install a software which is not in repo, it may need some libraries >>> which are not present and so the software may not work properly or it >>> leads to upgrade of those libraries which may break some other >>> applications (in case the library upgrade is not backward compatible >>> e.g. gnome 3.8). >>> 3- You can download and install a .rpm (for fedora and suse) or .deb >>> (for ubuntu and debian) file of a software. In this case all >>> dependencies will be checked and only if no incompatibility exists it >>> allows installation. This method is safer but it lacks automatic upgrade >>> feature. >>> 4- Mostly professional users and usually for specific purposes manually >>> download archive (.tar.gz) of a software from its website and then >>> follow the inner instructions to install it. There is a convention to >>> install manually installed software to /opt (abbreviation for optional) >>> to differentiate them from software installed from repos. Not only you >>> can not automatically update software installed with this method, but >>> also the software may not work properly due to inconsistencies. >>> 5- Windows applications usually solve the inconsistency problem by >>> installing most of their needed libraries again. This solution usually >>> ends to applications which occupy huge size on the disk, which is mostly >>> redundant. >>> >>> Therefore I recommend you to install your desired application (e.g. >>> libreoffice) from OpenSuse repository directly. It seems that the latest >>> version of LO in OpenSuse 12.3 official repo is 3.6.3. So if you want to >>> install the latest version of LO, you can use 3rd party repos specific >>> to OpenSuse. I could find two 3rd party repos for LO for OpenSuse 12.3: >>> 1. Repo named LO Stable with version 4.0.3 with URL >>> http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/LibreOffice:/Stable/openSUSE_12.3/ >>> 2. Repo named LO Unstable with version 4.1.0 with URL >>> http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/LibreOffice:/Unstable/openSUSE_12.3/ >>> >>> These repos must update automatically when newer version of LO come out >>> and so you can update your installed LO in the future only with some >>> clicks, no more efforts. >>> >>> For instructions on how to add a repository see: >>> http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Add_package_repositories >>> >>> For the list of all official, semi-official and 3rd party repos see: >>> http://en.opensuse.org/Package_repositories >>> http://en.opensuse.org/Additional_package_repositories#LibreOffice_STABLE >>> >>>> I can get the single modules from the application launcher, but there >>> remain two >>>> problems. >>>> (1) >>>> The instruction mention a directory "desktop-integration" to be in the >>>> folder RPMS, but there is no such directory. >>>> (2) >>>> I want to get an icon on the desktop, which launches the start center, >>>> not a specific module. How do I get that? >>>> >>>> Kind regards >>>> Regina >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org >>> Problems? >>> http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >>> Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >>> List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ >>> All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be >>> deleted >>> >>> >>> > > > >-- >To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org >Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ >All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted > > > > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
