Hi :)
Ahh, ok.  If that counts as plain text of a 5 (ish) letter document then
that explains a few misunderstandings i've had.
Regards from
Tom :)

On 19 November 2014 17:44, jomali <[email protected]> wrote:

> Sorry, Tom, that is plain text, just like HTML is plain text. Yes, it
> contains special codes, but it does not contain anything but plain ASCII
> characters.
>
> On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Tom Davies <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi :)
>> I'm really not getting plain text.  When i right-click and open in a
>> text-editor i get this sort of thing;
>>
>> {\rtf1\ansi\deff3\adeflang1025
>> {\fonttbl{\f0\froman\fprq2\fcharset0 Times New
>> Roman;}{\f1\froman\fprq2\fcharset2 Symbol;}{\f2\fswiss\fprq2\fcharset0
>> Arial;}{\f3\froman\fprq2\fcharset0 Liberation Serif{\*\falt Times New
>> Roman};}{\f4\fswiss\fprq2\fcharset0 Liberation Sans{\*\falt
>> Arial};}{\f5\fnil\fprq2\fcharset0 Droid Sans
>> Fallback;}{\f6\fnil\fprq2\fcharset0
>> FreeSans;}{\f7\fswiss\fprq0\fcharset128
>> FreeSans;}}
>> {\colortbl;\red0\green0\blue0;\red128\green128\blue128;}
>>
>> {\stylesheet{\s0\snext0\nowidctlpar{\*\hyphen2\hyphlead2\hyphtrail2\hyphmax0}\cf0\kerning1\dbch\af5\langfe2052\dbch\af6\afs24\alang1081\loch\f3\fs24\lang2057
>> Normal;}
>>
>> {\s15\sbasedon0\snext16\sb240\sa120\keepn\dbch\af5\dbch\af6\afs28\loch\f4\fs28
>> Heading;}
>> {\s16\sbasedon0\snext16\sl288\slmult1\sb0\sa140 Text Body;}
>> {\s17\sbasedon16\snext17\sl288\slmult1\sb0\sa140\dbch\af7 List;}
>> {\s18\sbasedon0\snext18\sb120\sa120\noline\i\dbch\af7\afs24\ai\fs24
>> Caption;}
>> {\s19\sbasedon0\snext19\noline\dbch\af7 Index;}
>>
>> }{\info{\creatim\yr2014\mo11\dy19\hr16\min29}{\revtim\yr0\mo0\dy0\hr0\min0}{\printim\yr0\mo0\dy0\hr0\min0}{\comment
>> LibreOffice}{\vern67241730}}\deftab709
>> \viewscale100
>> {\*\pgdsctbl
>>
>> {\pgdsc0\pgdscuse451\pgwsxn11906\pghsxn16838\marglsxn1134\margrsxn1134\margtsxn1134\margbsxn1134\pgdscnxt0
>> Default Style;}}
>>
>> \formshade\paperh16838\paperw11906\margl1134\margr1134\margt1134\margb1134\sectd\sbknone\sectunlocked1\pgndec\pgwsxn11906\pghsxn16838\marglsxn1134\margrsxn1134\margtsxn1134\margbsxn1134\ftnbj\ftnstart1\ftnrstcont\ftnnar\aenddoc\aftnrstcont\aftnstart1\aftnnrlc
>> \pgndec\pard\plain
>>
>> \s0\nowidctlpar{\*\hyphen2\hyphlead2\hyphtrail2\hyphmax0}\cf0\kerning1\dbch\af5\langfe2052\dbch\af6\afs24\alang1081\loch\f3\fs24\lang2057{\rtlch
>> \ltrch\loch
>> asdfdf}
>> \par }
>>
>> Regards from
>> Tom :)
>>
>>
>>
>> On 19 November 2014 16:16, Cley Faye <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > 2014-11-19 16:58 GMT+01:00 Virgil Arrington <[email protected]>:
>> >
>> > > That's one of the things I've always liked about RTF. In a pinch, one
>> > > could open an RTF file in Notepad and strip out all of the RTF coding
>> and
>> > > be left with a document's contents. I've never had to do it, but it's
>> > nice
>> > > that it can be done. With a binary file, you're left with smiley faces
>> > and
>> > > no visible content.
>> >
>> >
>> > ​Now, add a picture to your rtf file and see how fun it is to have all
>> > things in a "plaintext", notepad friendly​ file format...
>> >
>> > More recent format like odt (and docx for that matter) are *WAY* better.
>> > (is there a way to emphasis this more?). They are in fact a collection
>> of
>> > files in a simple ZIP, but the core of it (the text and structure) is
>> in a
>> > straightforward XML file which is as "plaintext" as an RTF file. In
>> fact,
>> > it's easier to strip the extra tags out of an XML file, since tools to
>> > manipulate/reformat XML are extremely common.
>> >
>> > With recent format, you get the possibility, should an issue arise, to
>> > ​extract the plaintext content, and even the attached files (pictures
>> and
>> > other embedded OLE stuff) with common tools. This is even demonstrated
>> on
>> > this list, when sometime someone get a corrupted file, and it is
>> possible
>> > to recover it with stuff like notepad and windows' zip file explorer.
>> >
>> > There's no comparison between these format, heavily documented in case
>> of
>> > ODT, that put a clear separation between content and format, and an RTF
>> > file that want to cram everything (content, format, and binary blobs for
>> > image) in a single "plaintext" file.
>> >
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