OK, Steve.
So:
I have View>Toolbars>Drawing enabled. In that I have 2 callout options, a
speech bubble and a rectangular text callout. ...
That answers my two questions:
(1) You don't use a Callouts toolbar [contra the Help, confirming a bug there].
(2) Instead, from the Drawing toolbar [which is where I found them] you use
these callout commands:
<Category:Options> <Tooltip:"Callouts"> <Label:"Callout Shapes">
<Category:Drawing> <Tooltip:"Callouts"> <Label:"Callouts">
But [as I noted earlier] there /is/ a "Callouts" toolbar listed among the
toolbars in:
View => Toolbars => Customize...
=> Toolbars tab => Target
I would love to know what that is about, and how to make that Callouts toolbar
visible to use.
In the same vein [and I will bet related], there is also a callouts command
that is *not* visible on the Drawing toolbar (though I suspect, if you check
the Customize options, it is enabled and so should be visible):
<Category:Drawing> <Tooltip:"Vertical Callouts"> <Label:"Vertical
Callouts">
IOW, if I had to guess, I suspect that callouts are not a completely
implemented function, though they are a good beginning to extend text boxes
into a special use case that will be very valuable when it is more functional.
That would explain some things:
*** the Help bug (probably had to be written before they really knew how it
will turn out);
*** a lack of style support that you expected (or requested) in your OP;
*** a labelled but still unimplemented "Vertical Callouts" command;
*** anomalies you have found, reflecting sparse user feedback. [Bugs can exist
with lots of user feedback.]
That said, when I was trying to understand your OP, and callouts generally, my
search led to this page -
"Callout Sidebars on LibreOffice"
<https://writingdoneright.net/videos/tutorials/callout-sidebars-on-libreoffice>
- which uses a slightly different (but related) definition of "callout", presenting how
to do /its/ callout function in LO without any special LO callout commands. Both functions are
useful, but it can only cause confusion to call both functions "callouts".
John
On 2021-07-23 16:58, Steve Edmonds wrote:
Thanks for the reply.
I have View>Toolbars>Drawing enabled. In that I have 2 callout options, a
speech bubble and a rectangular text callout. Your icon set may differ.
I am using the callouts to annotate some images for reference in my explanation
text.
If I add a rectangular text callout I can right click and edit some
characteristics. With the callout selected, I can use the menu Format>Text Box
and Shape.
Possibly callouts are still "in development" as, although my document units are
cm and last week the callout properties were in cm, today callout properties are in
inches.
There is also a funny quirk where callouts become invisible (but still there)
when the anchor is not in an appropriate place.
Steve
On 24/07/2021 08:18, John Kaufmann wrote:
On 2021-07-18 17:05, Steve Edmonds wrote:
Is it possible to set Writer callout text paragraph style (or default settings,
if so where please.
This is to avoid having to change the font and left hand offset in every line
callout one at a time.
When I first saw this question, I had no clue what you were asking (having never used
callouts), so looked forward to an answer, to at least help understand the question.
When no answer came, I tried the LibreOffice 7.1 Help on "callout" -- and found
it unhelpful:
"Opens the Callouts toolbar from which you can insert graphics into your
document."
But that leaves these problems:
(1) It's not clear WHAT "Opens the Callouts toolbar" [apparent bug in the
Help], and IAC:
(2) As installed (that is, in the default configuration), View=>Toolbars shows *no*
"Callouts toolbar".
As for (1): *WHAT* opens the Callouts toolbar?
As for (2): The lack of a toolbar, which is supposed to exist, led me to:
View => Toolbars => Customize...
In the Toolbars tab, with <Scope:LibreOffice Writer>, the <Target> box shows
"Callouts" among the possible tool bars, but gives no control (that I can see) for how to make
it appear in the View=>Toolbars menu.
Further, after much searching, I found that the Drawing toolbar has these three
apparently-relevant commands:
<Category:Options> "Callout Shapes"
<Category:Drawing> "Callouts"
<Category:Drawing> "Vertical Callouts"
(The command categories were found in a subsequent command search on "callout".)
But none of that gets any closer to /using/ these commands. So, at the most
basic level of use: How do you /invoke/ callouts? - via a Callouts toolbar or
the Drawing toolbar? If you use a Callouts toolbar, how do you make it appear?
John
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