On 25/07/2021 15:49, John Kaufmann wrote:
Hi Regina,
On 2021-07-23 20:30, Regina Henschel wrote:
Steve Edmonds schrieb am 18.07.2021 um 23:05:
...
Is it possible to set Writer callout text paragraph style (or default settings, 
if so where please.
This is to avoid having to change the font and left hand offset in every line 
callout one at a time.

No, it is not possible. Using the legacy callouts or the custom shape callouts 
makes no difference. You get always a shape and in Writer neither for the shape 
itself nor for the text in the shape styles are possible. You can only use 
direct formatting in Writer.

Your distinction between legacy callouts and custom shape callouts implies that 
the basic idea has been around for some time, and special callout shapes were 
added later. Do you recall when it started, and at what point someone was moved 
to add custom shapes? In order to understand the issue (and any possible 
deficiencies) further, I would like to:
 (1) see the earliest Writer Guide and Help in which callouts are mentioned;
 (2) try to understand why special shapes were of more interest than style 
support;
 (3) try to understand the intended use of the "Callouts" toolbar, and why it 
has not been made visible;
 (4) try to understand when and why Vertical Callouts were added to the Drawing 
toolbar (but not made visible).

I've been intrigued by this thread. Callouts was something I'd never heard of 
but I've now found them quite useful. As far as documentation is concerned, I 
have an old file, GS42-GettingStartedLO.pdf, from 2014 in which a search for 
'callouts' gets several hits on 3 pages.

The first says "For more information, see the Draw Guide Chapter 7 Getting Started 
with Draw, or the Impress Guide Chapters 4, 5, and 6."   I don't have either of 
these two.

The next says "Click on the triangle to the right of the Callouts icon to open the 
Callouts toolbar for drawing".  So it would appear that the callouts toolbar is 
nothing more than a dropdown from the callouts icon in the Drawing toolbar.

The 3rd page just shows that there are 2 callout icons on the Drawing toolbar. 
In fact, in my copy of Writer (6.4.7.2 in UbuntuStudio 20.04.2) there are those 
2 icons, one with a dropdown list of  7 icons (the toolbar?) and the other a 
single icon which gives a simple rectangular callout shape.

Philip


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