Hi Harald and @List

There is a post about pictures here:
En: 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Videos/Insert_and_edit_images_in_Writer_Part_1
De: 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Videos/Insert_and_edit_images_in_Writer_Part_1/de

I would delve into anchor types and positioning in one post. But this is also 
mentioned in the post.

Best regards
Susanne

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Harald Berger <hrb...@t-online.de> 
Gesendet: Dienstag, 25. Oktober 2022 12:57
An: users@global.libreoffice.org
Betreff: Re: [libreoffice-users] Position references

Hi Susanne and Regina,

in this post there is already a sketch by Mike Kaganski (is not so old yet):
https://ask.libreoffice.org/t/writer-relationship-between-page-margins-and-other-typographic-elements/47015/4?u=hrbrgr

Would that be usable?

Freundliche Grüße
Harald

Am 25.10.2022 um 11:45 schrieb susanne.mohn...@kiel-pries.de:
> Hallo Harald,
>
> yes- A document template would be nice.
>   
> I will need a time. At the moment I am still on vacation and read the list on 
> the side.
> Thanks in advance for your support!
>
> Kind regards
> Susanne
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: lo.harald.ber...@t-online.de <lo.harald.ber...@t-online.de>
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 25. Oktober 2022 09:54
> An: users@global.libreoffice.org
> Betreff: Re: [libreoffice-users] Position references
>
> Hello Susanne and Regina,
>
> if you like I can put it in the wiki (incl. rework).
>
> Susanne I would then send you a document template for the wiki text that I 
> always use.
>
> I have not read the topic very intensively now, but it is very interesting in 
> any case.
>
> Kind regards
> Harald
>
> Am 25.10.2022 um 08:10 schrieb Susanne LO:
>> Hallo Regina,
>>
>> Did you sent John such a document?
>> I will create a document for our german users with examples for the lot of 
>> positions. And explain it.
>> Where can i publish ist for the community?
>>
>> And: in LO 7.4.1 the is no reference to page in the context menu, only wehen 
>> i use properties.
>>
>> Greetings
>> Susanne
>>
>> —————————————————
>> Susanne Mohn
>>
>>> Am 15.10.2022 um 21:57 schrieb Regina Henschel <rb.hensc...@t-online.de>:
>>>
>>> Hi John,
>>>
>>> John Kaufmann schrieb am 15.10.2022 um 19:45:
>>>
>>>> Anchoring an entity (frame, box, image, ...) is done with respect 
>>>> to position references:
>>>> *Horizontal*:
>>>>       Paragraph area
>>>>       Paragraph text area
>>>>       Left paragraph border
>>>>       Right paragraph border
>>>>       Left page border
>>>>       Right page border
>>>>       Entire page
>>>>       Page text area
>>> Please use a current daily build. The wording has changed.
>>>
>>> "Entire page" = "Left of page text area" + "Page text area" + "Right 
>>> of page text area".
>>>
>>> "Entire paragraph area" = "Left of paragraph text area" + "Paragraph 
>>> text area" + "Right of paragraph text area".
>>>
>>> The "Left of page text area" is the sum of "Gutter" (if left) + 
>>> "left page margin" + "page border left" + "page padding left" as set 
>>> in the page properties dialog.
>>>
>>> The "Left of paragraph text area" is the sum of "Indent before" + 
>>> "paragraph border" + "paragraph padding" as set in the paragraph 
>>> properties dialog.
>>>
>>> Notice, that the column distance is not included in the "Entire 
>>> paragraph area".
>>>
>>> Left, Center and Right use areas as reference.
>>> "From left" takes the left edge of the area as reference line.
>>>
>>> You should insert a small image and test the various positions.
>>>
>>> In general the preview illustration describes it correctly. But some 
>>> bugs exist.
>>>
>>> When using anchor "to character" you get some additional references.
>>> Anchor "as character" has its own set of references. For testing 
>>> these anchors use a large font size, a line with different font 
>>> sizes, a large line spacing and a small image.
>>>
>>> I'll sent you a document with some lines to indicate the horizontal 
>>> areas. In addition I will sent you an older document which I have 
>>> created for the ODF TC. Describing the reference areas is still a 
>>> not solved task in the ODF TC. A problem in all that descriptions is 
>>> that common using of terms like "margin" and "border" does not 
>>> correspond to the technical attributes "fo:margin" and "fo:border".
>>>
>>> It would be really good to get a document with all that reference 
>>> areas and lines explained. I do not mean a technical one with ODF 
>>> attributes but a document for users about the kind of positioning 
>>> possible in LibreOffice.
>>>
>>> Kind regards
>>> Regina
>>>
>>>
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