On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 3:58 PM, Jesse Becker <[email protected]> wrote: > We're getting a bit off topic here, but CFEngine fits the one of your > requirements (but probably not the other). It is written in C, is quite > fast, and has a much lower resource footprint than anything based on > Ruby.
Like many other things, some people who are against configuration management and some don't... It all comes down to, is it cheaper to manually manage a cluster by hand, or should we use tools like Chef, Puppet, or Tivoli and hire 1 less person. (But for some HPC sites, running tools in the background is not possible or acceptable. For example, the original Catamount OS in DoE's Red Store could only run 1 single-threaded process at a time on the compute PEs.) I brought up the StarCluster Chef integration because doing things by hand is not possible in the EC2 scale - in the pre-cloud days, you can setup machines 1 at a time, but when you can launch hundreds of machines in minutes, doing things by hand is way too slow & expensive. BTW, some tutorial videos by Justin & Chris: - StarCluster 0.91 Demo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vC3lJcPq1FY - Launching a Cluster on Amazon EC2 Spot Instances Using StarCluster: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ym7epCYnSk Rayson > However, it is probably not "simpler to learn" by a long shot. > Configuration management is deceptively complex once you get beyond the > "golden master" view of the world. > > > >> >> On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Rayson Ho <[email protected]> wrote: >> 2) And the BioTeam integrates StarCluster with Opscode Chef, so you >> can automate many of the administrative tasks (create users, package >> management, service setup, etc) of EC2 SGE clusters: >> >> http://bioteam.net/2011/03/dude-you-got-some-chef-in-my-starcluster/ >> >> While I have more experience with IBM Tivoli & Puppet, I am really >> impressed with the Chef EC2 module. And Chef is gaining quite a lot of >> momentum lately. E.g. Dell recently open sourced Crowbar, which is an >> OpenStack installer based on Chef. >> >> I will wait for Puppet Enterprise 2.0, which is supposed to have new >> EC2 & VMware provisioning & orchestration capabilities, and see how >> Puppet compares with Chef before I decide if I am switching to Chef. >> But configuration management is real and it can cut down a lot of IT >> infrastructure maintenance. >> >> Rayson >> >> >> >> On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 7:01 PM, Kristen Eisenberg >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Chris Dagdigian <dag at sonsorol.org> writes: >>> >>>> By FAR the best way to run standalone Grid Engine clusters on the Amazon >>>> Cloud today is to simply use MIT Starcluster : >>>> >>>> http://web.mit.edu/stardev/cluster/index.html >>> >>> I didn't mention it as I got the impression that that wasn't the OP's >>> case, but probably it should be mentioned in the same place on >>> gridengine.info, assuming that's still the best place for such things. >>> Kristen Eisenberg >>> Billige Fl???e >>> Marketing GmbH >>> Emanuelstr. 3, >>> 10317 Berlin >>> Deutschland >>> Telefon: +49 (33) >>> 5310967 >>> Email: >>> utebachmeier at >>> gmail.com >>> Site: >>> http://flug.airego.de - Billige Fl???e vergleichen >>> _______________________________________________ >>> users mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://gridengine.org/mailman/listinfo/users >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> users mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://gridengine.org/mailman/listinfo/users >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> users mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://gridengine.org/mailman/listinfo/users > > -- > Jesse Becker > NHGRI Linux support (Digicon Contractor) > _______________________________________________ users mailing list [email protected] https://gridengine.org/mailman/listinfo/users
