Created GROOVY-7461 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GROOVY-7461> and PR 36 <https://github.com/apache/incubator-groovy/pull/36>.
How would you feel about a PR to copy the Javadoc comment mentioning the UTF-16 BOM on File.newWriter to all the other methods that use writeUTF16BomIfRequired (at least until we decide we're going to change the current behavior)? -Keegan On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 8:17 AM, Guillaume Laforge <glafo...@gmail.com> wrote: > Good point! > > 2015-06-09 14:11 GMT+02:00 Keegan Witt <keeganw...@gmail.com>: > >> That's only available in Java 7. Isn't Groovy still targeting 1.6 for >> the non-indy version? >> >> -Keegan >> On Jun 9, 2015 7:56 AM, "Guillaume Laforge" <glafo...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Well spotted! >>> >>> You could also compare with the StandardCharset, instead of going >>> through the name comparison: >>> >>> http://docs.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/api/java/nio/charset/StandardCharsets.html >>> >>> 2015-06-09 13:49 GMT+02:00 Keegan Witt <keeganw...@gmail.com>: >>> >>>> No, it's a Groovy bug. >>>> >>>> private static void writeUTF16BomIfRequired(final String charset, final >>>> OutputStream stream) throws IOException { >>>> if ("UTF-16BE".equals(charset)) { >>>> writeUtf16Bom(stream, true); >>>> } else if ("UTF-16LE".equals(charset)) { >>>> writeUtf16Bom(stream, false); >>>> } >>>> } >>>> >>>> should be >>>> >>>> private static void writeUTF16BomIfRequired(final String charset, final >>>> OutputStream stream) throws IOException { >>>> if ("UTF-16BE".equals(Charset.forName(charset).name())) { >>>> writeUtf16Bom(stream, true); >>>> } else if ("UTF-16LE".equals(Charset.forName(charset).name())) { >>>> writeUtf16Bom(stream, false); >>>> } >>>> } >>>> >>>> in org.codehaus.groovy.runtime.ResourceGroovyMethods. We'll probably >>>> want to fix that regardless of what we decide on the *withPrintWriter* >>>> question. I'll open a Jira and a PR. >>>> >>>> -Keegan >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 3:21 AM, Guillaume Laforge <glafo...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> From Groovy's point of view (ie. when you're coding in Groovy), the >>>>> BOM is automatically discarded when you use one of our reader methods >>>>> (withReader, etc), so it's transparent whether the BOM is here or not. >>>>> >>>>> I tend to think that having the BOM always is a good thing (I even >>>>> thought that was mandatory), but Groovy should guess the endianness >>>>> regardless anyway. >>>>> >>>>> Happy to hear what others think too about all this though. >>>>> >>>>> Guillaume >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2015-06-08 23:20 GMT+02:00 Keegan Witt <keeganw...@gmail.com>: >>>>> >>>>>> The code as-is today writes the BOM regardless of platform. I just >>>>>> tested in Linux with the same results. I think there are 2 parts to the >>>>>> question of "what's the correct behavior?" >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. Should the BOM be written at all, particularly when the platform >>>>>> is Windows? >>>>>> 2. Should the behavior of *withPrintWriter* differ (even if the >>>>>> difference is to be smarter) from the behavior of *new PrintWriter*? >>>>>> >>>>>> *Discussion* >>>>>> 1. Strictly speaking, yes. Because RFC 2781 >>>>>> <http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2781> states in section 4.3 to assume >>>>>> big endian if there is no BOM. However, in practice, many applications >>>>>> disregard the RFC and assume little-endian because that's what Windows >>>>>> does >>>>>> <https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/dd374101%28v=vs.85%29.aspx>. >>>>>> Because of this, the behavior could be changed so that when writing >>>>>> UTF-16LE on Windows, it doesn't write the BOM. But in my opinion, it's >>>>>> best practice to always write a BOM when working with UTF-16, and Java >>>>>> should have done this in their implementation of their PrintWriter. >>>>>> >>>>>> 2. This is a tough one. Arguably, *withPrintWriter* is doing the >>>>>> smarter, more correct behavior, but the typical user would assume this is >>>>>> just a shorthand convenience for newing up a PrintWriter (I certainly >>>>>> did). So the question is, is it better to just document this difference >>>>>> in >>>>>> the GroovyDoc? Or to change the behavior to be closer to Java? And if >>>>>> the >>>>>> latter, what breakages would that cause within Groovy itself? Making >>>>>> that >>>>>> change could break folks in production, because they could rely on that >>>>>> BOM >>>>>> being there, in cases for example where the file is created on Windows, >>>>>> but >>>>>> then processed on Linux or when working with a third party library that >>>>>> is >>>>>> more picky about the presence of a BOM. >>>>>> >>>>>> -Keegan >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 4:32 PM, Guillaume Laforge <glafo...@gmail.com >>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Now... is it what should be done or not is the good question to ask >>>>>>> :-) >>>>>>> Does Windows manages to open UTF-16 files without BOMs? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2015-06-08 22:17 GMT+02:00 Keegan Witt <keeganw...@gmail.com>: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I forgot to mention that. Yes, I ran the test mentioned in Windows. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 3:54 PM, Guillaume Laforge < >>>>>>>> glafo...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> That's a good question. >>>>>>>>> I guess this is happening on Windows? (I haven't tried here, since >>>>>>>>> I'm on OS X) >>>>>>>>> I think BOMs were mandatory in text files on Windows. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2015-06-08 17:53 GMT+02:00 Keegan Witt <keeganw...@gmail.com>: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I've always taken a perverse pleasure in character encoding >>>>>>>>>> problems. I was intrigued by this SO question >>>>>>>>>> <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/30538461/why-groovy-file-write-with-utf-16le-produce-bom-char> >>>>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>>> UTF 16 BOMs in Java vs Groovy. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It appears using withPrintWriter(charset) produces a BOM whereas new >>>>>>>>>> PrintWriter(file, charset) does not. As demonstrated here: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> File file = new File("tmp.txt")try { >>>>>>>>>> String text = " " >>>>>>>>>> String charset = "UTF-16LE" >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> file.withPrintWriter(charset) { it << text } >>>>>>>>>> println "withPrintWriter" >>>>>>>>>> file.getBytes().each { System.out.format("%02x ", it) } >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> PrintWriter w = new PrintWriter(file, charset) >>>>>>>>>> w.print(text) >>>>>>>>>> w.close() >>>>>>>>>> println "\n\nnew PrintWriter" >>>>>>>>>> file.getBytes().each { System.out.format("%02x ", it) }} finally >>>>>>>>>> { >>>>>>>>>> file.delete()} >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Outputs >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> withPrintWriter >>>>>>>>>> ff fe 20 00 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> new PrintWriter >>>>>>>>>> 20 00 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Is this difference in behavior intentional? It seems kinda odd >>>>>>>>>> to me. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -Keegan >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Guillaume Laforge >>>>>>>>> Groovy Project Manager >>>>>>>>> Product Ninja & Advocate at Restlet <http://restlet.com> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Blog: http://glaforge.appspot.com/ >>>>>>>>> Social: @glaforge <http://twitter.com/glaforge> / Google+ >>>>>>>>> <https://plus.google.com/u/0/114130972232398734985/posts> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Guillaume Laforge >>>>>>> Groovy Project Manager >>>>>>> Product Ninja & Advocate at Restlet <http://restlet.com> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Blog: http://glaforge.appspot.com/ >>>>>>> Social: @glaforge <http://twitter.com/glaforge> / Google+ >>>>>>> <https://plus.google.com/u/0/114130972232398734985/posts> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Guillaume Laforge >>>>> Groovy Project Manager >>>>> Product Ninja & Advocate at Restlet <http://restlet.com> >>>>> >>>>> Blog: http://glaforge.appspot.com/ >>>>> Social: @glaforge <http://twitter.com/glaforge> / Google+ >>>>> <https://plus.google.com/u/0/114130972232398734985/posts> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Guillaume Laforge >>> Groovy Project Manager >>> Product Ninja & Advocate at Restlet <http://restlet.com> >>> >>> Blog: http://glaforge.appspot.com/ >>> Social: @glaforge <http://twitter.com/glaforge> / Google+ >>> <https://plus.google.com/u/0/114130972232398734985/posts> >>> >> > > > -- > Guillaume Laforge > Groovy Project Manager > Product Ninja & Advocate at Restlet <http://restlet.com> > > Blog: http://glaforge.appspot.com/ > Social: @glaforge <http://twitter.com/glaforge> / Google+ > <https://plus.google.com/u/0/114130972232398734985/posts> >