I don't think freebsd-stable is suitable for this thread, so dropped
        it from cc: list.

>I don't agree.  There may be differences what one means with 'production' 
>though.  Personally, if I had a power to switch on IPv6 on www.google.com 
>hosts, I would only do it by adding www.ipv6.google.com: NOT with 
>www.google.com.  People who are afraid of degrading service and it costing 
>real money are reluctant.

        it depends on how you run your IPv4/v6 servers.  for instance, we are
        running ftp.iij.ad.jp, one of the most famous anonymous ftp server in
        Japan, dual-stacked.  this is because we think it robust enough.

        for our company website, www.iij.ad.jp, we do like this:
        the we are using is like this:
        - "www.iij.ad.jp" has A record and AAAA record.  there actually are
          two machines.
        - "A" record for www.iij.ad.jp points to one of them, which runs very
          stable version of IPv4.  the machine has the actual data.
        - "AAAA" record for www.iij.ad.jp points to another one, which NFS-
          mounts the data partition from IPv4 one.
        we do monitor them closely, and they have impressive uptime.

        if you run www.ipv6.google.com, people won't be able to smoothly
        migrate to IPv6.  i believe it a major drawback.

        my point is, there are a lot of ways you can operate dual-stack
        services, and you just need to make a right choice.

>An example of potentially technically capable stuff: IPv6 service of 
>playground.sun.com/ipv6/ was down/out-of-sync some time ago.. and that 
>isn't even a "production" site.

        i guess this is because IPv6 variant of playground.sun.com has not
        been given enough babysitting/monitoring.  I don't like it to be seen
        as an example of lousiness of IPv6.  it is lousy operation that causes
        trouble, not lousy protocol/implementation.
        (i'm not blaming those who administer playground.sun.com)

itojun
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