Also note that production used Linux should be useful too via RedHat,
Mandrake, etc.  Also for IPv6 production note Solaris, AIX, and HP-UX
has been shipping production quality IPv6 since 2000.

Separate that which is done via academic deliverable from product view.

/jim 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Mohacsi Janos
> Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 5:53 AM
> To: Soininen Jonne (Nokia-NET/Helsinki)
> Cc: ext Lawrence Hughes; [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Trouble with 2.6.11 Linux
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, 6 Apr 2005, Soininen Jonne (Nokia-NET/Helsinki) wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > I thought that USAGI was already included in the 2.6 kernel. Have I
> > missed something?
> >
> 
> This is partially true. 2.6 kernel selecting various fixes from USAGI.
> You should persuade 2.6 kernel developers to import more...
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 
> Janos Mohacsi
> Network Engineer, Research Associate
> NIIF/HUNGARNET, HUNGARY
> Key 00F9AF98: 8645 1312 D249 471B DBAE  21A2 9F52 0D1F 00F9 AF98
> 
> 
> 
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Jonne.
> >
> > On Tue, 2005-04-05 at 22:28, ext Lawrence Hughes wrote:
> >> To the Linux folks having problems, please check out
> >> www.linux-ipv6.org . This is home
> >> of the USAGI project (part of WIDE project in Japan, 
> headed by Dr. Jun
> >> Murai). Following
> >> this is the description of USAGI from this site.
> >>
> >> Note that WIDE also does the KAME IPv6 stack, which is included by
> >> default in *BSD.
> >> It is the best and most complete IPv6 I have run across. 
> USAGI is an
> >> attempt to provide
> >> the same basic functionality for Linux, although they seem to run a
> >> bit behind KAME.
> >>
> >> To those who don't speak Japanese, you may be interested 
> to learn that
> >> Kame means
> >> "turtle", and Usagi means "hare". I fyou know your Aesop, you will
> >> understand why
> >> the "turtle" is ahead in this race. ;-) The expansion of 
> USAGI as an
> >> acronym is
> >> clearly an after-the-fact rationalization, and would make it USAGIP
> >> anyway.
> >>
> >> If it is an option for you, we have found by experience 
> that FreeBSD &
> >> OpenBSD are
> >> better and more complete for IPv6 work than Linux as is, 
> or even Linux
> >> with USAGI
> >> stack. Please no flames from Linux fans! The KAME stack is 
> recognized
> >> worldwide
> >> as the reference implementation of IPv6, and WIDE has done 
> an amazing
> >> amount of
> >> really quality work on it, and I am stating this as my 
> opinion, based
> >> on research and
> >> testing.
> >>
> >> If your Linux distro happens to already include the USAGI 
> stack, you
> >> can ignore this
> >> message. Any real Linux gurus out there - do you know of 
> any distros
> >> that do include
> >> USAGI by default? If not, any experience using the Linux 
> stack as is,
> >> or the USAGI
> >> stack? If it USAGI is not already included by default, 
> perhaps you can
> >> encourage
> >> your favorite distro to include it?
> >>
> >> Description from USAGI site follows:
> >>
> >> Currently we have an IPv6 implementation in Linux kernel 
> source tree.
> >> Only enabling "Internet Protocol Version 6" option in the 
> Networking
> >> section, we can enjoy IPv6 life.
> >>
> >> However, once you begin to use IPv6 on Linux box, you will soon be
> >> aware that the implementation have some problems... Because an
> >> existing Linux implementation is too old and not so well-tested, it
> >> has many bugs and unimplemented functions.
> >>
> >> Then we decided to start USAGI Project(UniverSAl 
> playGround for Ipv6
> >> Project) with WIDE Project, KAME Project and TAHI Project. 
> The project
> >> aim to improve IPv6 environment on Linux and deploy the 
> IPv6 Internet
> >> on the world. We've started to hack the kernel, libraries and
> >> applications aggressively and will provide our product freely for
> >> Linux and IPv6 community. In the near future we would 
> contribute and
> >> merge our code into the main trunks of Linux kernel and glibc.
> >>
> >> Because of the contribution for main trunks, we have a 
> policy that we
> >> don't make and accept changes which depend on Linux distributions.
> >> Instead the policy, we will provide binary packages for Linux
> >> distributions on every stable release. Let's try out USAGI IPv6
> >> environment with us !!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 
> ______________________________________________________________________
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Bellino, Phil
> >> Sent: Wed 4/6/2005 12:33 AM
> >> To: Users-IPv6; Users-Usagi; Users-Deepspace
> >> Subject: Trouble with 2.6.11 Linux
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> I have a 2.6.5 Linux running router radvd.
> >> I also have 2.6.5 clients(and a 2.4.20 client) that accept 
> the router
> >> advertisements from the router and acquire a Link-Global 
> address and
> >> also autoconfigures their Link-Local address.
> >>
> >> Their configs:
> >> ipv6.conf.eth0.accept_ra=1
> >> ipv6.conf.all.accept_ra=1
> >> ipv6.conf.default.accept_ra=1
> >>
> >> I have a 2.6.11 client host that does not accept any router
> >> advertisements even though it's config is the same as 
> above. (I have
> >> compared the "sysctl -a" output on both the 2.6.5 and 
> 2.6.11 and they
> >> are identical).  In fact the following is what occurs at boot time:
> >>
> >> 1.  When I boot up this client, eth0 does not have the inet6
> >> Link-local address.
> >> If I then issue:
> >> ifconfig eth0 down
> >> ifconfig eth0 up
> >>
> >> The inet6 Link-local address then appears.
> >>
> >> 2. My 2.6.11 host does not learn this prefix and as a 
> result there is
> >> no Link-Global address.
> >>
> >> Has anyone experienced this issue.
> >>
> >> Thank you,
> >> Phil Bellino
> >>
> >>
> >> ============================
> >> Phil Bellino
> >> MRV Communications, Inc.
> >> Boston Product Division
> >> 295 Foster St.
> >> Littleton,MA 01460
> >> Tel: (978)952-4807
> >> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> ============================
> > -- 
> > Jonne Soininen
> > Nokia
> >
> > Tel: +358 40 527 46 34
> > E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
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