UK's Prime Minister is on our side ;-) http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3343325/Cameron-decides-start-referring-ISIS-Daesh-term-disliked-leaders-sounds-like-word-crush-Arabic.html
On 23 November 2015 at 23:46, Stephen Cameron <[email protected]> wrote: > Suspect lots of rivers of same name around the world, there is one in > Tasmania > > On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 9:43 AM, Stephen Cameron < > [email protected] > > wrote: > > > Happy to consider change to 'Apache River Isis' I like that better. > > > > On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 8:49 AM, Mike Burton <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > >> Hi Guys, > >> > >> my 2c: Its not worth changing our name, some of my reasons: > >> 1. The considerable effort could be better used elsewhere > >> 2. Many entities names coincide with “undesirable" ones (some might even > >> object to Apache helicopters) > >> 3. ISIS name might change, actually it is starting to, as others have > >> mentioned, if they changed it to our new name should we change again?? > >> 4. *** them, we were here first > >> > >> Mike Burton > >> [email protected] > >> > >> > On 23 Nov 2015, at 16:19, Dain Gosbee <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > > >> > Hi guys, > >> > > >> > I just wanted to chime in here. Personally, I would also advocate > >> changing > >> > the name. I would also be happy to take part in suggesting name > >> changes. > >> > > >> > Just wanted to add my two cents. > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Sincerely, > >> > Dain Gosbee > >> > > >> > On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 4:54 PM, Cesar Lugo <[email protected] > > > >> > wrote: > >> > > >> >> Hi, just another user here. I ran into the same issues, searching for > >> >> Apache ISIS gives similar results because the Apache helicopters > agains > >> >> Isis. Looking for Apache ISIS framework works much better for me. I > >> hope > >> >> that helps. > >> >> > >> >> Cesar. > >> >> > >> >> -----Original Message----- > >> >> From: Rade, Joerg / Kuehne + Nagel / Ham GI-PS [mailto: > >> >> [email protected]] > >> >> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 5:23 AM > >> >> To: [email protected] > >> >> Subject: AW: Project name > >> >> > >> >> Hi, > >> >> > >> >> in German media IS now is used instead of ISIS when referring to [2]. > >> >> I thought Apache Isis was named after the Egyptian goodness [1]. > >> >> > >> >> BTW: When I searched for 'Naked Objects' I saw a filter message as > >> well ;-) > >> >> > >> >> Jörg > >> >> > >> >> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isis > >> >> [2] > >> https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_State_of_Iraq_and_the_Levant > >> >> > >> >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > >> >> Von: Jeroen van der Wal [mailto:[email protected]] > >> >> Gesendet: Montag, 23. November 2015 11:32 > >> >> An: users > >> >> Betreff: Re: Project name > >> >> > >> >> Hi Andrew, > >> >> > >> >> Welcome to this mailing list! > >> >> > >> >> We've had a similar discussion about a year ago [1] and decided then > to > >> >> leave the project name as it is. But if there are new circumstances > we > >> >> might need to reconsider. As you may have noticed we always refer to > >> the > >> >> project as "Apache Isis", not "ISIS". In Dutch media I see a trend of > >> >> abandoning ISIS in favour of IS and Daesh [2] but don't know the > >> situation > >> >> well in foreign media. Personally I think the current name does not > >> hinder > >> >> our growth and changing the name would not speed up things either. > I'm > >> >> still biased to leave things as they are and devote our limited > >> resources > >> >> in making our framework better. > >> >> > >> >> FYI: the project has been named after the river Isis, the part of the > >> >> river Thames that flows through Oxford [3]. > >> >> > >> >> Jeroen > >> >> > >> >> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ISIS-982 > >> >> [2] > >> >> > >> >> > >> > http://theweek.com/speedreads/446139/france-says-name-isis-offensive-call-daesh-instead > >> >> [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Isis > >> >> > >> >> On 23 November 2015 at 06:55, Andrew Voumard <[email protected]> > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > >> >>> Hi, > >> >>> > >> >>> Have there been any suggestions or thoughts of changing the project > >> >>> name from isis to something else ? I only ask, because searching for > >> >>> apache isis usually brings up some unwanted / unsavoury results, > and I > >> >>> would expect that might just increase over time. It also might > trigger > >> >>> email spam filtering, company firewall rules, etc to kick in for > some. > >> >>> I could imagine other contexts in which the mere occurrence of the > >> >>> word isis might create some unwanted distraction or issue. > >> >>> > >> >>> I can appreciate how much upheaval that such a name change could > >> >>> cause, but nonetheless thought it worth asking about. > >> >>> > >> >>> Thanks > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >> > >> >> Kühne + Nagel (AG & Co.) KG > >> >> Rechtsform: Kommanditgesellschaft, Bremen HRA 21928, USt-IdNr.: DE > >> >> 812773878. > >> >> Geschäftsleitung Kühne + Nagel (AG & Co.) 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