Right you are. If it helps, to bring the story about Estatio [1] up to date... we started work in July 2012, and it eventually went live in May 2014. Jeroen and I were the only developers on it, and even then we both worked part-time (about 50%), and also the vast majority of my time was spent developing the Isis framework rather than the application itself. That work enabled the company (Eurocommercial) to switch off the COTS/packaged application that had previously been used for generating the invoices.
Since then, the team has expanded a little (though we deliberately keep it small), and Estatio has had many releases into production. Its scope continues to expand - in many ways it is becoming the centre of operations for the company - and is being rolled out into new countries later on this year. I think it's fair to say that the company has been very happy with the results, to the extent that Isis seems to be regarded as the de-facto implementation platform for new apps (one of which was the little Contact App [2] recently finished). HTH Dan [1] http://isis.apache.org/powered-by.html#_powered-by_estatio [2] http://isis.apache.org/powered-by.html#contact-app On 15 April 2016 at 14:28, José Alejandro Manaure Martinez < [email protected]> wrote: > Hi Dan, > I begin by thank you for your valuable and timely response. > Ciertanly, they are concerned about technology risk, time-to-market risk, > and maintainability risk. > They believe that the framework has very little time on the market. > Importantly, software that we intend to develop represents the core of > their business. > They want us as their main provider that we justify the use of ISIS. > We have no doubt about the potential of ISIS, and I think with the success > stories that Nacho sents us will be sufficient to justify the use of ISIS. > > Thanks for your great help > > José > > 2016-04-15 3:41 GMT-05:00 Dan Haywood <[email protected]>: > > > Hi Jose, > > > > The webpage that Nacho quotes also has details of a few other products... > > Estatio, which Jeroen and I both work on, and I also just updated it with > > ContactApp, which is an Ionic/Angular mobile app for the same customer, > > leveraging Apache Isis both for its backend REST API as well as, of > course, > > the Wicket viewer to allow administrators to maintain the information. > > > > If your principal Customer just wants a simple existence proof, then > these > > are very good examples. > > > > However (and I'm sure you are doing this) I do suggest that you find out > > why your customer is asking the question. Are they concerned about > > technology risk, or skill risk, or time-to-market risk, or domain > > complexity risk, or maintainability risk? Is the application a critical > > part of the company, or could the project fail with relatively little > > business risk? What is the trust relation like between your organization > > and your customer? > > > > Not asking you to answer these questions here; but when I hear of a > > customer asking "tell me who's used this framework already", I feel that > a > > deeper conversation is usually worthwhile. (And if they won't have that > > conversation, probably better to walk away). > > > > HTH > > Dan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 15 April 2016 at 08:10, Nacho Cánovas Rejón < > [email protected] > > > > > wrote: > > > > > Hi Jose. > > > > > > I'm Sandas GRC (ElevenPaths product) technical leader. > > > > > > ElevenPaths is a Telefonica Company and we are pleased to use Apache > ISIS > > > on our product as our framework for three years. > > > > > > In Apache ISIS you have info about products that are developed with > > Apache > > > ISIS. > > > > > > https://isis.apache.org/powered-by.html > > > > > > Sandas GRC info is > > > https://www.elevenpaths.com/technology/sandas-grc/index.html > > > > > > Best regards. > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: José Alejandro Manaure Martinez [mailto:[email protected]] > > > Sent: jueves, 14 de abril de 2016 17:29 > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: Consult about Apache ISIS > > > > > > Hi Jeroen and Dan > > > > > > Actually I am working to an IT Company and we are implementing IT > > > solutions using Apache Isis. Our principal Customer is demanding an > > > application, and We need to demostrate that Apache ISIS is the > appropiate > > > framework. For this we need knowing abour success stories about Apache > > > ISIS. Would yours likes to share with us about it. > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > [image: Logo] > > José Alejandro Manaure > *Project Manager* > Tel: (57) 1 703 17 77 > Cel: (57) 312 5476188 > E-mail: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Calle 93 # 19b - 66 Ofc 202 > Bogotá D.C., Colombia > www.ticxar.com > [image: facebook] > <https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ticxar/446503822192581> [image: > twitter] <http://twitter.com/ticxar> [image: linkedIn] > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/ticxar> >
